3 December 2007 10 pm eastern

ALA 250: HTML 5, design for flow

In Issue No. 250 of A List Apart, for people who make websites:

A Preview of HTML 5

Who’s afraid of HTML 5? Not Lachlan Hunt! As both a front-end web developer and a contributor to HTML 5, he tells us what we can expect from the emerging markup specification, whose goals include more flexibility and greater interoperability.

Designing For Flow

Ask a web designer what makes a site great, and you’re likely to hear “ease of use.” Jim Ramsey begs to differ. Web applications in particular, he tells us, work best and engage most profoundly when they challenge users to overcome difficulties.

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8 Responses to “ALA 250: HTML 5, design for flow”

  1. thacker said on

    HTML 5.0

    current estimates have work finishing in around ten to fifteen years

    Technologies, communications and markets will wait that long?

  2. Something More said on

    ALA 250: HTML 5, design for flowNo heat at $5,000/month A date with Sandra Bernhard Facebook and your privacy Give HTML e-mail a chance

  3. Hiếu Đức Hoàng said on

    @thacker: The WHATWG
    FAQ explains
    that the market won’t have to wait for the W3C-REC status, but the status waits for the market to provide implementations. Your question is very similar to the question a bit above that one, namely When will we be able to start using these new features?

  4. npala2001 said on

    I enjoyed reading the great article from ALA talking about HTML 5 (just a preview of course). I glad to hear that representatives of all four major browser were included. Well I am in agreement with thacker because in all reality we wont see the specifications finalized until we are all retired and working at Walmart as door greeters (Ha!).

  5. thacker said on

    Even if the time constraints are reduced by two-thirds, HTML/XHTML will still end up getting replaced by other communication technologies. The markets are not going to wait five years. If Web 2.0 has demonstrated anything, it has and is showing that markets, from the financial markets to the consumer markets, are starving for better ways to communicate than what browser based and browser dependent HTML based communication are able to provide. The models used for development of standards are antiquated. We will not see another Dot Com crash but will, in all likelihood, see a crash in the current methods and delivery of Internet communication.

  6. Jeffrey Zeldman said on

    If Web 2.0 has demonstrated anything, it has and is showing that markets, from the financial markets to the consumer markets, are starving for better ways to communicate than what browser based and browser dependent HTML based communication are able to provide.

    What!?!?!

    Facebook doesn’t run in a browser? Basecamp isn’t HTML-based? How did I miss that?

  7. thacker said on

    Zeldman–

    Where did I state that Facebook isn’t browser based?

    Facebook currently is a hybrid that is still a browser based standards dependent social network with its APIs available for use only within the Facebook ‘community’ or at least wherein a user must be logged into Facebook. For true data sharing [data sharing as one small example] among a wide variety of Web apps, that data must be identified as such. Identification requires a common standard. That standard requires implementation and acceptance.

    Whether it may be Facebook APIs, Google OpenSocial, Joe Blows OpenData or even an entirely different hybrid such as Adobe Air, the markets are demonstrating a desire to break-out. It will not wait years.

  8. Jeffrey Zeldman said on

    HTML 5 is already being implemented. Please reread the article more carefully, and be sure to also read this comment by Shawn Medero. Thanks!

  9. Greg Bulmash said on

    IMO, In 10 to 15 years, browsers will just be wrappers for running a SWF/PDF plug-in. Static web pages will be rendered as PDF documents and interactive ones will be rendered as SWF documents.

  10. . Todd Lambert { a bluesman in the back, and a beautician at the wheel } said on

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