Migrating from a conventional Facebook account to a public figure (“fan”) page – a report from the trenches

BECAUSE FACEBOOK LIMITS USERS to 5,000 contacts, I had to migrate from a conventional user account to what used to be called a “fan” page and is now called an “Artist, Band or Public Figure” page. (Page, not account, notice.)

There’s a page on Facebook called “Create a Page” that is supposed to seamlessly migrate from a conventional user account to a public figure (aka “fan”) page.

The page says it will only migrate your connections—it will lose all your content, photos, apps, and so on—and Facebook means it. After migrating, all my stuff is gone. Years of photos, wall posts, blog posts, tweets, you name it. Even the “help” page link is gone once you’ve migrated, so you can’t refer to any help documentation to find out where all your stuff went and if any of it can be saved.

Custom URL breaks on migration

Because of an idiocy in the database, you can’t keep your existing custom URL, since, when you request it, Facebook tells you it is “taken.” My Facebook page was “jzeldman,” but that URL is “taken” by a fellow named “Jeffrey Zeldman,” so I can’t use it on my Jeffrey Zeldman page. So I had to change to a new URL (“JeffreyZeldman”) and now all my admin links (for instance at facebook.com/happycog) are broken, as they point to the old user page instead of the new fan page. At the very least, Facebook should seamlessly redirect from facebook.com/jzeldman (my old URL) to facebook.com/JeffreyZeldman (the new one), but it does not.

So all my other social media sites that point to the old Facebook account need to be updated by hand, and any third-party links will now be broken because Facebook doesn’t let you keep your custom URL during a migration.

Third-party apps disappear completely

Likewise, none of the third-party functionality (Twitter, Tumblr, Flickr, RSS, and so on) has migrated from the user page to the fan page, and there is no information explaining how to reconnect these apps.

No reasonable app like the ones I’ve mentioned appears in the “apps” section of the sidebar on my new page. When I look for additional apps, I get treated to a bloated browse of crappy apps nobody on earth uses, whose creators probably made deals with Facebook in hopes that newbies would be persuaded to hook up these contraptions. You can find “PhotoMyButt” but not Flickr.

I, however, use Flickr.

So, since I can’t find it in the big dull browse, I resort to Facebook’s Apps’ “Search” box. Typing Flickr in that box is exciting. Instead of being taken to the Flickr apps on Facebook, I’m treated to endless redirects courtesy of a broken PHP script that loops infinitely forever suffering like Christ on the cross world without end amen while never actually resolving. Each new partial page that loads for an instant before being replaced by the next is undesigned and unbranded and contains only the sentence fragment, “Please stand by, redirecting…”

The devil will see you now.

So much for content

My photos are gone. My existing writing is gone. Facebook does seem to be migrating human beings who were “friends” on my old page, but nothing else works.

Oh my God, I can’t Admin my own page

I can’t Admin my new Facebook page because the “Admin” is “jzeldman” (me at the old account, which Facebook deleted). Perhaps this is why it’s impossible to post content, no apps work, etc. Nice.

Kids, don’t try this at home

All these bugs are probably known to Facebook, and there are probably nice people at Facebook whose job is to execute known secret internal workarounds when helping an actual “celebrity” migrate his or her page. I’m just guessing of course, but it stands to reason that Ashton K or Lady Gaga, if they want a Facebook page, probably don’t have to deal with all this frustrating brokenness. They have people for that.

But I don’t. I’m a web guy. And web stuff should just work.

68 thoughts on “Migrating from a conventional Facebook account to a public figure (“fan”) page – a report from the trenches

  1. The best solution at the moment is to create a new fan page rather than migrate. (You lose your data anyways)

    The fan page has limitations in communication with others and friend-searching (which I think will improve after so many complaints that a fan page is useless).
    The friends page has a limit in friends as you know.
    When you rely on one or the other, you are at the hands of any flaw. Having both type of accounts is insurance.
    Your *real* friends/fans will add you to either or both. So don’t worry about two sets of numbers.

  2. Jeffrey: Are you referring to the “Use Facebook as Page” thingy? Yes, this needs some serious rethought. I tried it for a few minutes with a similar experience to yours. BUT I switched back and my personal account was still there as if nothing had ever happened.

    I think you just need to make an artist page, but not make it your main page. This is not optimum either, because you have two pages to maintain.


  3. I swear facebook is the new Microsoft. So big most people can’t ignore them. So inexplicably dull witted, everyone eventually ends up hating it.

  4. Jeffrey: Are you referring to the “Use Facebook as Page” thingy? Yes, this needs some serious rethought. I tried it for a few minutes with a similar experience to yours. BUT I switched back and my personal account was still there as if nothing had ever happened.

    Whereas my personal account has been wiped out. The migration killed it.

    All those years of conversations, posts, photos, comments, jokes, links, etc. are gone, obliterated in an instant. As if a million voices cried out…

    Moreover, while it broke my personal account, Facebook still thinks that account exists, and it points to “Jeffrey Zeldman the personal account” as the Admin of my new page and all my existing pages (ALA, AEA, Happy Cog).

    Since “Jeffrey Zeldman the personal account” has been wiped out, however, I am locked out of all my Facebook pages, cannot add content to them, cannot add apps (apps are broken), it’s an endless loop out of a torture chamber.

    They shouldn’t allow migration until it actually works.

    I’ve reached out to a Facebook friend; maybe he knows a trick or two to cosmically unfuck my Facebook.

  5. wowa…sounds like you got some terrible advice from the Facebook staff. The way they intended it to work is that you would have set up a Facebook Page/Public Profile long ago as a way to connect with ‘fans’ and it would be peripheral to your core profile which you use to only connect with true friends and people you actually know. It’s reasonable that you would not actually have more than 5000 true friends. My frustration with Facebook is that they have not clearly communicated this very important discrepancy (and layer of complication) in how to use your profile. You absolutely need to keep your profile as a profile in the Facebook ecosystem (which is getting more complex and convoluted every day) so you can do stuff such as ‘Like’, Singular Login etc.

    That bit about migrating to a public profile really doesn’t sound right to me. Seems like they were trying to help you do something that is rarely done. Hope you get this worked out.

  6. Did the Facebook guy mention the “Download your Information option” in Account Settings before doing a migration? There should be a backup warning like WordPress gives when updating to a new version. I hope you get your content back.

  7. Why not just—uh—delete your Facebook account? That’s what I did… I really do not think we should be so servile and let companies control our lives. Remember FOAF? Yes, it failed but it was more of what the Web should be. I know we get all gee wiz about Facebook and even Google, but it’s sad that the Web was started by pioneers like Tim Berners-Lee who—despite some people’s criticism of his overtly theoretical approach—believed in decentralized, open architecture (e.g., one-way hyperlinks, allowing broken links) and now we’ve collectively decided to be little bitches and use Facebook at any cost or any amount of annoyance…

  8. Unreal! They seriously have no clue who J Zeldman is?

    And even after all these cries for help, all these days, still nothing?

    This really is dimwittednes at it’s best!

    No words man! No words!

  9. Gloria Antonelli beat me to mentioning the recently-added-but-like-all-FB-options-deeply-buried export data option.

    If it was me doing this my trust level would be zero having seen how many times Facebook breaks or fails (e.g. connecting Vimeo a la YouTube). Lately their database has been rather testy about the timeliness of posted updates as well. Years of building WordPress/Moveable Type/(insert CMS here) sites has trained me to do a data dump before any major “surgery”.

    Regardless this has Facebook fail written all over it. Some simple linear process pages or dialog warnings could help as well as a clear roadmap of account types.

  10. Yeah, +1 for Ryan. Facebook doesn’t care about doing things well, as anyway who’s been unfortunate enough to have to work with their API knows.

    They care about harvesting you and your families data under the pretence of providing a ‘useful service’. We used to call that spyware once upon a time.

    I will never understand how so many clever and reasonable people fall for it. Vote with your feet and ditch your account. You’ll feel better :-)

  11. I do not have a facebook account. Sometimes I feel like an outcast.
    But reading this post I’m thinking ‘maybe I’m on the right track after all’.

  12. People keep saying Facebook is here to stay, that it’s not like MySpace — it’s too big to disappear. But I never fail to be amazed at how poorly designed it is, and the large number of dreadful UX, markup and programming errors there are. It’s almost impossible to find anything you need in the support section and when you do, you can never seem to find you’re way back to it again. Basically large parts of the site appear counter-intuitive and designed to frustrate users. Which is precisely why, in the not to distant future, Facebook will be in the same position as MySpace or Friendster — someone else will have come along and designed something that does the same thing, only better. And I, for one, cannot wait for that day!

  13. Jeffrey: Just wanted to say, thanks for being a ‘friend’ on Facebook. I’ll forever keep the e-mail that said, “Jeffrey Zeldman wants to be your friend on Facebook.” Hope you’re able to get this sorted out.

  14. I deleted my Facebook account last year. Not because of privacy concerns or from the fear that Mark Zuckerberg will steal my children. I deleted my Facebook account because I found it convoluted and frustrating — and my experience with it never seemed to improve. I was always tracking something down, trying to figure something out, doing detective work. I never really enjoyed the experience. My friends and family don’t seem to enjoy it either. But they can’t stop using Facebook and are frequently angry at it. It’s like a dysfunctional relationship. Please, just breakup already. Why are you putting yourself through this?

    My mother, who doesn’t enjoy technology and who wholeheartedly believes the corporate world and social media will destroy humanity, can’t stop using it either. For her, and many people it seems, Facebook is like dealing with your health insurance company or your bank, yet Facebook is voluntary. My mother even sends angry emails to Facebook. But she won’t delete her account.

    At work, our marketing department is always scrambling to find unique ways to use Facebook to promote our company. They’re equally frustrated, lost in some maze of promotion that never seems to succeed or provide measurable results. They too become angry and frustrated, particularly when Facebook decides to change some aspect of its design. We spent months developing content for Facebook tabs, which have since been converted to links and relegated to the left navigation column. Our marketers freaked. They were angry at Facebook… for that afternoon. The next day we were trying to figure out what to do next on Facebook.

    Connecting the world is a good thing. Social media is not to be feared or vilified. It just needs to be improved. Facebook has an epic challenge on it’s hands. One in twelve human beings use facebook. Trying to improve or transform something this massive seems next to impossible.

  15. That does suck. Double time. And man I am sorry hear about your trial! Been down a similar road or two myself with them. But when it comes to Facebook — as opposed to say, WordPress — we definitely get what we pay for. Facebook, however, gets — and its investors will get — a whole lot more from our participation in it.

    BTW @Gloria, thanks for the heads up on the export data thingy. I am smarter today.


  16. You’re welcome Brian. Facebook does say to “be sure to save any important content before beginning migration” in the second question on “Converting your profile into a Page”.

    There is also a question “How can I download my profile information before converting my profile to a Page?” on the same info page.

    I had remembered about this Facebook information page from a previous search but when I wanted to pull up the info to make this comment, it was hard to locate. SEO could be improved.

  17. A Facebook engineer, who demands anonymity, has unfucked the most egregious parts of this—i.e. now both profiles are up, so the lost content has returned.

    There’s more work to do but I’m hanging with my kid and recovering from food poisoning, so this won’t get fixed overnight.

    And it will never be 100% fixed, because two separate accounts sharing a single login, with two URLs, and some hoop jumping to switch between being able to admin each of the accounts, is not a perfect service.

    “Celebrity” (even micro-celebrity) is an edge case for Facebook. They probably don’t have sufficient engineering resources to make migration from user to page work well.

    I suspect they will soon plaster the Migration page with warnings so other power users (if that’s what I am) know what they are in for when they migrate, and can make a reasonable decision—they won’t just jump in and have everything go boom.

  18. There are a lot of bright engineers at Facebook and I *believe* there will come a day when user accounts aren’t separate from “public persona” pages—it will just be one simple-to-manage account.

    I think they’d offer this now if they had sufficient resources.

    Don’t quote me, ’cause I can’t quote anybody, but that’s my sense of where things will eventually go.

    It is awkward to be the test case for something that should have been anticipated, and strange to think that a company valued at $50 Billion might not have enough UX people to get something like this right, right out of the box.

  19. When did you join the content farm sharecropper network?
    Did you fall on your head and have a brain fart?

    I guess the independent developer has died…

  20. This is why we need distributed (decentralized) social networks, so your data remains in your control.

  21. For the past you know, let’s say 50 years people have relied on companies as part of their interaction with children (e.g., Pixar, Disney, Hasbro). But now it seems people are wholesale exporting part of that interaction to companies. Vurry Scurry in my opinion.

    Was quite happy to see more “whynotjustgetthefuckoffofFacebook” sentiment!— There’s hope after all… just perhaps not here.

  22. Another part of Facebook that is failing is their recruitment tool. I applied for a job there about 4 months ago. Haven’t heard anything back, but when I try to apply for another position I get an error that its already one application in their process even tho that position is closed and I have no way of accessing/updating it.

  23. Kenneth, ouch. Sorry to hear that.

    I know how to maintain the quality of a business that is small.

    I can’t imagine dealing with the explosive growth Facebook has experienced.

  24. What a travail. While I’m hugely sympathetic to Zeldman, I have to say it is a huge relief to me to see all these experienced web folk have such issues dealing with Facebook. I thought it was just me. I can never find what I’m looking for. The App search for a fan page is entirely ludicrous. The apps connect strangely or sporadically. The whole thing is honestly a UX nightmare!!

    Why does it still exist? I agree with another commenter — it is the Windows of social networking, or whatever the f*ck you want to call it.

  25. Facebook also has a confusing interface. I hate the way they want to create a new cool-o term for everything on the site, to the point where it is just confusing. Why is it called a “wall”? Why is somebody “poking” me? I can forgive them trying to be cute, but when you hear that stuff just doesn’t work as advertised, my jaw drops and I wonder why I should forgive them. After all, they are sucking away all my free time, can’t they at least make it work?

  26. For this and many other reasons I stopped using FB a few months ago. I’m sorry to hear this happened to you Jefferey. I feel for you man.

  27. I have a Facebook friend who gives me advice on occasion. And I can’t help but wonder if the advice is intended to benefit Facebook more than myself… I actually haven’t taken any of the advice yet.

  28. I wonder if FB will ever offer a “lite” version of their site…so folks don’t have to keep wrangling with all the extra features that are bs.

    I shut my account down a couple of months ago, and haven’t missed it one bit. Most of my friends have done the same. Twitter is good enough for our needs.

  29. Jeffrey, I can still access both the jzeldman and the JeffreyZeldman pages. When I search in the search box, I get a quick match in the dropdown both for “Jeffrey Zeldman; Public Figure” and “Jeffrey Zeldman; Happy Cog”

  30. I think that this is a rare occurrance. I’d imagine that the majority of users who will create fan pages are not thinking of themselves as the brand and would have created a fan page for the brand keeping the original ‘person’ page until everything was set up.

    A bit of gun-ho project planning seems to have caused you to come unstuck. But all is not lost, it gives you the opportunity for people to rediscover + for all the trolls on your page to be weeeded out.

  31. Arstechnica ran a short piece and a poll a few days ago asking if you used facebook (poll choices were: I’m an addict, I check it often, I use it occasionally, I have an account but never visit, I don’t have an account). I was surprised that after 20,000+ votes that the “I don’t have an account” option won. I thought I was in the minority with that one, although I’m happy to have consistently resisted any urge to join what only feels like a regurgitation of AOL and GeoCities in the latest decade. FaceBook seems to have gotten traction at the exact moment that broadband Internet access was spreading like wildfire.

    One the of best anti-FB comments of that poll was:

    * I don’t care if anyone else knows what I’m doing. My life ain’t that interesting and I’m guessing yours isn’t either.
    * FB’s lack of security scares a lot of people. If I were ever to create an account I wouldn’t use my real info but that’s just me.
    * FB’s user figure is a total lie.
    * FB has evolved into the world’s largest picture album.
    * My 65 year old mother-in-law uses it. Yet another reason why I won’t.
    * High school wasn’t the highlight of my life and there’s a reason that I haven’t seen nor spoken to some of these people in 20 years.
    * A lot of people that use FB says that it saves them time over mass emails for invitations and announcements, yet I question just how much time it’s actually saving. I don’t recall email being that hard to use or that time-consuming. Or a phone call for that matter. For those that use FB to ‘keep in touch’ I question just how friendly you are with these people that you don’t see face to face or talk to. Plus, with all this time you’re “saving”, are you playing Mafia Wars and Farmville instead?
    * It seems like a mega easy trap to make mistakes that will haunt you for a looong time.

  32. So sorry you are navigating that particular circle of Facebook Hell! So sorry, too, for everyone who feels like a Facebook presence is necessary. I recently set up a business “page,” because that’s what we’re supposed to do–and I’ve found the experience to be even more horrible than using FB as “myself.”

    Then whole point of Pages seems to be to force/coerce one into buying advertising. Normal modes of making contact with people aren’t available to “pages.” I’m forced to switch back and forth between being my Page and being Myself in order to accomplish anything, and basic tasks like creating Events are buried.

    Facebook is on its way out, but it will take industry leaders like Mr. Zeldman to help pioneer an alternative.

    This is why we need distributed (decentralized) social networks, so your data remains in your control.

    Amen to that. Whatever happened to Diaspora?

    Diaspora is apparently alive and well.

  33. Yeah dude, you should really ask for your money back. What, you didn’t PAY facebook for any of that crap? Then sit down and shut up. If you’re such a neat-o-keen web designer, make your own damn web site! Oh wait…

  34. Reason #249 why I deleted my Facebook account and have never once regretted it. You don’t have to use Facebook, people. You somehow managed to survive up until a very few years ago without it. The only thing that makes even more sense than telling Facebook to shove it is to unfollow Charlie Sheen on Twitter.

  35. Uploading data (including pictures, text, etc.) to the “cloud” (Facebook, Flickr, or anyplace else) puts that data out of your control. It can be copied, usurped (eg re-edited & republished, used for ads, etc) , or deleted.

    Thus, the two basic laws of uploading anything are:

    1 – Upload nothing you don’t want public (even misrepresented and made public).

    2 – Backup everything you want to save on your own site. Do not rely on any external site to keep your material. (And, unfortunately, be prepared to re-format/modernize your old data everytime standards change — it’s not easy now to watch your old digital 8 tapes, or check your floppy disk files.)

  36. I do hope this Facebook frustration hasn’t robbed you of too much time with your kid. Generally speaking, the angrier a person gets at (and, especially, on) Facebook, the farther I stay from that person physically. It’s a great barometer that way. Who knew some of my acquaintances included meteorite chasers and iPhone fart-app loving rabbis? Can’t make this stuff up. Facebook works precisely as I need for it to work for me. People seem to forget the pricetag.

  37. Young ‘uns, I remember when EVERYONE had an AOL account (for about six months.) Someone WILL create the iPod of social media and we’ll forget Facebook faster than you can say, “Zune.” Easy-come, easy-go, Facebook. Quality, ease-of-use and reliability do matter. At the least, let Google handle your search component. Conducting a search on Facebook is practically pointless! Great article, by the way, which I discovered through Roger Ebert’s Tweets.

  38. I’m sory to hear that FB gave you such a hard time, but that’s what it does — give people a hard time.

    I deleted my account about a year ago, after it lay dormant for about sixmonths. You know what? None of the hundreds of “friends” I had noticed! All my real friends just e-mailed me anyways.

    I’ve yet to see anyhing that convinces me FB marketing is worth the effort you need to put in.

  39. I had precisely the same experience. What I don’t understand is how Facebook became so popular when it is the least intuitive site I’ve ever experienced.

    Someone should start a site named OpenFace, which would perform similar services but (1) work in a more sensible way, like the home pages on Yahoo, Google and AOL; (2) not be so authoritarian, and (3) allow user customization.

  40. I agree with Roger Ebert, but you’ll pardon me if I don’t hold my breath.

    I find the current fascination with Facebook rather… well… ennervating. I’ve seen so many popular services come and go in the last 25 years I’ve lost count, and it is likely to happen to Facebook just as it did to Usenet, AOL, Geocities, ICQ, MySpace, email (Haven’t you heard? Email is dead ’cause young folk find it passe) and all the rest.

    Basic business logic (happy patrons are loyal patrons) would seem to suggest that Facebook would be constantly striving to make using its service as painless and pleasurable as possible, but that has not been the case. I dunno about some of you out there, but regularly irritating significant, even large portions of your user base seems to be the Facebook way.

    In any event, whether or not Zuckerberg and crew ever get a clue may be of no interest to history, which indicates that once a certain mass of social awareness is reached it’s the irritations that make headlines, not the latest gizmo.

    If Facebook still occupies its current place of eminence in the online world five years from now I will be surprised; in ten years I would be stunned.

    Then again, that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.
    (Regards to Dennis Miller)

  41. Yeah dude, you should really ask for your money back. What, you didn’t PAY facebook for any of that crap? Then sit down and shut up.

    This comment doesn’t deserve a response, but the idea within it does. We don’t “pay” with money alone. When we invest time and attention in something–and especially when our attention is then resold to advertisers–we quite correctly feel a sense of ownership: aka the much-bemoaned sense of entitlement. We’re paying in time (life), after all, which is all money represents.

  42. “There are some things which cannot be learned quickly, and time, which is all we have, must be paid heavily for their acquiring. They are the very simplest things and because it takes a man’s life to know them the little new that each man gets from life is very costly and the only heritage he has to leave.” – Hemingway

  43. The thing I find most off putting and downright sleazy about Facebook is you have to actually jump through a hoop if you don’t want your information made available to third parties. That’s fucked up. To wit, you have to Click on the “privacy” link in the upper right>Click on “edit settings” next to Applications>Click on “Other Applications” (one of the tabs across the top of the page>Select “Do not share any information about me through the Facebook API>Click Save at the bottom of the page

    That’s actually not that complicated I suppose only here’s the deal—Facebook doesn’t come with instructions. I had no idea you had to specifically request they do not fuck you over by sharing your information. Talk about outrageous unethical behavior. The thing that infuriates me the most is I had an active account there for a full 7 months before someone tipped me off to this security settings feature. I hate that you are somehow expected to know about this on your own.

  44. Jeffrey, I think that you haven’t deleted your facebook.com/jzeldman account, maybe you created a new page and started navigating as the new enterprise account. Try entering your old account using another browser, clean of any Facebook cookies, and may you enter your old account that I just happen to visit and see that it is there.
    Maybe you just created a new enterprise account and as admin you can navigate Facebook as the new account. You have to just return to navigate as the old account. Don’t panic. :)
    I read your blog as much as I can and it is great. Congratulations. And sometimes when I have time the video blog. Great too.

  45. Roger Ebert, thanks for the comment. There are open, customizable networks like Ning.com and Diaspora. These networks have a lot going for them, but they haven’t yet gained anything like the traction Facebook has. In social media, everybody wants to be where the party is—and, for now, that’s Facebook and Twitter.

  46. Jose Luis Garcia, as noted up-thread, a kind and talented Facebook developer who prefers to remain anonymous undid much of the damage the Facebook migration created. Among other things, he was able to restore my “user” account.

    So I now have two Facebook profiles—a “user” account at facebook.com/jzeldman with 5,000 friends, and all my apps and prior content; and a “public figure” page at facebook.com/JeffreyZeldman, which I can now control by “switching” from my Jeffrey Zeldman account to my Jeffrey Zeldman account.

    If that sounds confusing and absurd, well, it is—but it works, and that’s much better than things were after the initial migration, when nothing worked and all content was gone.

    Nobody should have to turn themselves into a “Page” in order to stay in touch with their readers, customers, or what-have-you. And of course nobody does: I created this personal site in 1995 to do that job, and it’s still doing fine, thank you.

    BUT, as in my previous comment, many people prefer to communicate through Facebook, and if you care about people who care about you or your work, you want to meet them where they like to congregate. Hence the desire by public figures like Roger Ebert (or to a much lesser extent, me) to communicate with friends, fans, followers on Facebook.

    It’s easy for a public figure to do so on Twitter; on Facebook, not so much, not yet.

  47. Yes Jeffrey, I noted that later and feel embarrased for not going through all the messages first. Sorry.
    But now I’m thinking about a solution for this problem in Facebook, besides adding you as a “Friend” just let people “Like” your account and that way it could have access to your public things and have this connection and keep a private section where your closest friends can have access. Of course that you could have control of what is public, like it is right now, the semi-public or for followers like the people who “Like” your account and the private content, for your closest friends. By closest friends I mean the people you know well, not just fans or people interested in your writings and public declarations.
    Two buttons, “Like” and “Add as friend” in the same account.

  48. I made the mistake of migrating a profile to a page. Now, for all intents and purposes, I cannot reach the site. Shows up in searches, in “pages I admin” but all the links are broken. Ironically, services that update the account remotely are working, so I can post to the wall from dlvr.it and other places.

  49. Jeffrey, did any of your anonymous developers said when I will get my profile back? Now I have none of them. Nor Profile, neither page.

  50. you know i did this thinking that my url would not be taken over which was what i didn’t want anyway and the damn thing has been converted over so now i am stuck with a url for fb that i don’t want and all my friends converted over. i changed it based on the info i have read that all said the url is not taken over.
    so don’t do it if you want to change your url cause that doesn’t work. it’s takes it over with the new page.

  51. I made the same mistake thinking that I would have full creative control over the new fanpage…NOT! you lose all control to fine tune your fanpage when you have no personal profile.

    This appeal form is not a guarantee that Facebook will be able to reverse your profile, but it is at least as start. If your appeal is approved, the newly created business page will be removed. Users can still create a new business page for themselves, however, users will need to court fans the old-fashioned way.


    Businesses which already maintain Facebook Fan Pages would be well aware of the benefits involved. Facebook profiles have been present ever since the world’s leading social network was launched but Pages are a recent phenomenon. Therefore, some education on the benefits on Facebook fan pages is definitely needed.
    •Comply with rules – Facebook says profiles are for individuals and aren’t best suited to business needs. In contrast, business accounts are designed for people who want to use Facebook to administer Pages and run ad campaigns.
    •Privacy – Business accounts cannot be found in a search, and the owner of the account will not be able to send or receive friend requests. Therefore, business owners can be rest assured about their privacy needs being taken care of.
    •Fans – If you chose to migrate, all your friends are converted to fans. This is a huge bonus as you don’t need to start from ground zero and build a fan base for your business.
    •Brand – A Facebook business page serves as a better brand ambassador for your business.


    I reckon the biggest disadvantage of moving from a Facebook profile to a business fan page is that you lose the personal touch.
    •No Friends – Once you migrate, you can’t add or accept friends. If a Facebook user wants to get associated with your page, they have to become a fan.
    •Profile Data – If you migrate, you lose all profile data. Though you can backup the same, it’s still a risk.
    •No Chat – Since you’ve no friends, you can’t chat with them. I believe this hampers businesses who love to initiate conversations with their customers.
    •Vanity URL – Once you migrate, the Vanity URL associated with the profile will be gone

  52. I’m a performing singer/songwriter. I started out with a profile page a few years ago, and recently added a fan page when I discovered that my friends would be limited to 5,000. I’ve got a data base of about 10,000, most of whom I haven’t even sent an invite to either page yet, and I already have 1000 “friends” . The problem for me is, when someone sends me a friend request I don’t know if it’s someone who heard me somewhere years ago and absolutely adores my music, or just somebody who clicks on everyone suggested to him. I don’t want to turn away someone who genuinely is a follower, so my profile page is gonna fill up with people I don’t know, and my real fans won’t be able to get on. Why can’t facebook come up with a way for us to “move” our friends over to a fan page we are already linked to? I’m thinking maybe they will some day and I should just sit tight, but I’m really just wanting one page, but with the ability to converse and stuff.

    Another question. If I get full, and start deleting freinds, does it open up the profile page to add more people?

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