Comments on: House Party http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:08:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: @font-face and WOFF round up • Tiffany B. Brown http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49783 @font-face and WOFF round up • Tiffany B. Brown Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:32:47 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49783 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] House Party (Zeldman’s round up) [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] House Party (Zeldman’s round up) [...]

]]> By: Vitamin C http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49566 Vitamin C Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:43:14 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49566 Well for those of you who are posting and don't have a picture set up for their account, that is why, you are supposed to have a profile pic. They have responded to every e-mail that I have sent them. It took them a couple of days, but they did respond to it and let me know what my tracking number was because I never got it. Funny thing was, the number came through at about the time that the package was delivered. However, someone did receive an e-mail saying that they have all been mailed out and that some of the people that didn't follow the directions were taken out of the Host status and will not be getting a pack and will be getting an e-mail explaining why! Well for those of you who are posting and don’t have a picture set up for their account, that is why, you are supposed to have a profile pic. They have responded to every e-mail that I have sent them. It took them a couple of days, but they did respond to it and let me know what my tracking number was because I never got it. Funny thing was, the number came through at about the time that the package was delivered. However, someone did receive an e-mail saying that they have all been mailed out and that some of the people that didn’t follow the directions were taken out of the Host status and will not be getting a pack and will be getting an e-mail explaining why!

]]> By: Erik van Blokland http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49535 Erik van Blokland Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:34:14 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49535 Rich, given the progress we made over the summer, your words remind me of a child throwing a tantrum in the supermarket. And about as constructive. The foundries I have contact with are all working on getting webfonts ready. I guess perhaps you don't know what running a foundry actually involves? Cheers mate. Rich, given the progress we made over the summer, your words remind me of a child throwing a tantrum in the supermarket. And about as constructive.

The foundries I have contact with are all working on getting webfonts ready. I guess perhaps you don’t know what running a foundry actually involves?

Cheers mate.

]]> By: Jeffrey Zeldman http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49524 Jeffrey Zeldman Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:31:18 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49524 Good dessert talk. Good dessert talk.

]]> By: Richard Fink http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49522 Richard Fink Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:53:55 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49522 @erik Hey, I'm relaxed. It's my words that are agitating. It's pretty obvious how conflicted font vendors are about this. They want it but they don't want it. And it's leading smart people to make really dumb decisions. This morning from Garrick Van Buren of the font service site <a href="http://kernest.com" rel="nofollow">Kernest</a>: <blockquote>I suspect we're 15 minutes from a 100% web font friendly 'foundry' from completely cornering the market.</blockquote> Hyperbole for sure. But is he far from wrong? The idea that, hey, maybe you can <i>stigmatize</i> people into buying web licenses is pretty wild. And funny. But today, that's the impression you get. To help out, I've written font vendors a kind of a <a href="http://readableweb.com/an-open-letter-to-retail-font-vendors/" rel="nofollow">blueprint</a>. BTW - You know I've reported very favorably about WOFF. But if the retail font vendors were moving any slower, they'd be going backwards. It would be better for them to remain as silent as possible until they make up their minds. Or their lawyers make up their minds. We "support" and we will "license" for WOFF seem to be two very different things. ciao, rich @erik
Hey, I’m relaxed. It’s my words that are agitating. It’s pretty obvious how conflicted font vendors are about this. They want it but they don’t want it. And it’s leading smart people to make really dumb decisions.
This morning from Garrick Van Buren of the font service site Kernest:

I suspect we’re 15 minutes from a 100% web font friendly ‘foundry’ from completely cornering the market.

Hyperbole for sure. But is he far from wrong?
The idea that, hey, maybe you can stigmatize people into buying web licenses is pretty wild. And funny. But today, that’s the impression you get.
To help out, I’ve written font vendors a kind of a blueprint.
BTW – You know I’ve reported very favorably about WOFF. But if the retail font vendors were moving any slower, they’d be going backwards. It would be better for them to remain as silent as possible until they make up their minds. Or their lawyers make up their minds.
We “support” and we will “license” for WOFF seem to be two very different things.
ciao, rich

]]> By: Erik van Blokland http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49521 Erik van Blokland Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:05:40 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49521 Jeez Rich, chill. Jeez Rich, chill.

]]> By: Richard Fink http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/31/house-party/#comment-49518 Richard Fink Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:01:42 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2829#comment-49518 House seems to be following the trend set by some other major font vendors (Ascender, Monotype) that express "support" for WOFF and some variation of EOT, but treat web designers as second-class citizens, steering them to the back door to "work out" the licensing. <blockquote>If you want to license one of our typefaces for the web, we ask that you contact us to work out the licensing and technical issues involved. We also hope that you’ll help to encourage other browser makers to support WOFF so that we can exit this period of murkiness as quickly as possible.</blockquote> OK, House. I'll wait the twelve years until WOFF is supported accross the board, and then I'll buy from you. At Ascender - you "Apply" for a web license and they'll email you the EOT or a download link or something. At Monotype, you're steered to a form to fill out. Why don't they just post the message: YOU'RE NOT ONE OF OUR "NORMAL" CUSTOMERS. WE DON'T TRUST YOU. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOU. IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT TO OUR ONLINE FRISK POLICY AND PERPETUAL PROBATION, WE WON'T SELL TO YOU. I greatly encourage web designers thinking of buying fonts to use with @font-face to go through the buying process, read the EULA, and see how welcome you feel. And then, hopefully, you'll let them know about it. "Support" is cheap. Right now, it's pure lip service. House seems to be following the trend set by some other major font vendors (Ascender, Monotype) that express “support” for WOFF and some variation of EOT, but treat web designers as second-class citizens, steering them to the back door to “work out” the licensing.

If you want to license one of our typefaces for the web, we ask that you contact us to work out the licensing and technical issues involved. We also hope that you’ll help to encourage other browser makers to support WOFF so that we can exit this period of murkiness as quickly as possible.

OK, House. I’ll wait the twelve years until WOFF is supported accross the board, and then I’ll buy from you.
At Ascender – you “Apply” for a web license and they’ll email you the EOT or a download link or something.
At Monotype, you’re steered to a form to fill out.
Why don’t they just post the message: YOU’RE NOT ONE OF OUR “NORMAL” CUSTOMERS. WE DON’T TRUST YOU. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOU. IF YOU DON’T SUBMIT TO OUR ONLINE FRISK POLICY AND PERPETUAL PROBATION, WE WON’T SELL TO YOU.
I greatly encourage web designers thinking of buying fonts to use with @font-face to go through the buying process, read the EULA, and see how welcome you feel.
And then, hopefully, you’ll let them know about it.
“Support” is cheap. Right now, it’s pure lip service.

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