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		<title>By: handbags</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-51510</link>
		<dc:creator>handbags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That said, the photos and quotes are very compelling, especially for those of us who have shopped at the Housing Works stores have not had their mission explained to us in that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said, the photos and quotes are very compelling, especially for those of us who have shopped at the Housing Works stores have not had their mission explained to us in that process.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-49220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For those who are interested, my slides are up on Slideshare as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, @Aaron!

Where else can people find out about eCSStender?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For those who are interested, my slides are up on Slideshare as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, @Aaron!</p>
<p>Where else can people find out about eCSStender?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-49213</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job on AEA, yet again, Jeffrey.

For those who are interested, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/AaronGustafson/solving-css-problems-with-ecsstender-an-event-apart-chicago-2009&quot; title=&quot;Solving CSS Problems With eCSStender&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my slides&lt;/a&gt; are up on Slideshare as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on AEA, yet again, Jeffrey.</p>
<p>For those who are interested, <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/AaronGustafson/solving-css-problems-with-ecsstender-an-event-apart-chicago-2009" title="Solving CSS Problems With eCSStender" rel="nofollow">my slides</a> are up on Slideshare as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Content Strategy and Typography - Alibi Productions</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-49181</link>
		<dc:creator>Content Strategy and Typography - Alibi Productions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a summary of some of presentations at An Event Apart [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Morrison &#8211; Subism Studios LLC &#8211; Photography, Design, Production and Consulting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting up to speed&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morrison &#8211; Subism Studios LLC &#8211; Photography, Design, Production and Consulting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Getting up to speed&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next job I had was only a few days ago and it&#8217;s one I was personally very excited about. The past two years I have attended An Event Apart Chicago. For the unintroduced An Event Apart is a conference for people who make websites. Put together by Jeffrey Zeldman and Eric Meyer, An Event Apart features the leading names in the field and offers rich content and astounding insight into where things are going. It&#8217;s been a blast every time I&#8217;ve gone, I always learn a ton and have wound up making some great contacts and friends from it. This year I got the opportunity to work the event as it&#8217;s official photographer and spent my time working on the images throughout the event and uploading them live through the show. This is something I had experimented with at the Gals&#8217; Guide event but it had a much more profound effect at AEA, not only did my Flickr traffic go through the roof, but I had people stopping me in the conference halls to complement me on my work. This was a service I was glad to provide for the guests of An Event Apart and I look forward to more opportunities like this in the future.  You can find my photos here and Jeffrey Zeldman&#8217;s post conference wrap up here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next job I had was only a few days ago and it&#8217;s one I was personally very excited about. The past two years I have attended An Event Apart Chicago. For the unintroduced An Event Apart is a conference for people who make websites. Put together by Jeffrey Zeldman and Eric Meyer, An Event Apart features the leading names in the field and offers rich content and astounding insight into where things are going. It&#8217;s been a blast every time I&#8217;ve gone, I always learn a ton and have wound up making some great contacts and friends from it. This year I got the opportunity to work the event as it&#8217;s official photographer and spent my time working on the images throughout the event and uploading them live through the show. This is something I had experimented with at the Gals&#8217; Guide event but it had a much more profound effect at AEA, not only did my Flickr traffic go through the roof, but I had people stopping me in the conference halls to complement me on my work. This was a service I was glad to provide for the guests of An Event Apart and I look forward to more opportunities like this in the future.  You can find my photos here and Jeffrey Zeldman&#8217;s post conference wrap up here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-48973</link>
		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, gregorypeck, and then they find out you can outsource these projects and save even &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; money by leveraging another nation&#039;s relative poverty. These people aren&#039;t the future of the web. But hey, let them enjoy their clunky Flash interface while they drown in their own mediocrity. That&#039;s easy to do, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, gregorypeck, and then they find out you can outsource these projects and save even <em>more</em> money by leveraging another nation&#8217;s relative poverty. These people aren&#8217;t the future of the web. But hey, let them enjoy their clunky Flash interface while they drown in their own mediocrity. That&#8217;s easy to do, too.</p>
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		<title>By: gregorypeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregorypeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is fire hot or cold?? HOT!  Lol.

First, what is this talk of thin pizza?  

Second, man oh man where is the Flash talk?  You can&#039;t have a modern internet without Flash talk.

Third, Flash is winning, again.  jQuery&#039;s time in the sun is gone.  

Fourth, let me tell you about why jQuery&#039;s time in the sun is gone.  Because expectations evolve, one day an accordion class is like &quot;WOW&quot;, and then the next day its like &quot;I NEED SOMETHING MORE&quot; (like pizza girl).  And then you say jQuery, what ya got, and jQuery says &quot;Meh, I got nothing&quot;, then you say, so do we dev a custom JS app???  And someone says &quot;YES&quot;, ok, lets hire a team of JS scripters, a CSS/XHTML guy, a design guy, and some guy to help them understand each other, and then you say &quot;GO!&quot;.  Later you realize that JS in the browser runs like a fat man up a mountain when you put any kind of complexity into the UI experience and changes to the look and feel take forever because it take 3 people to pull off a simple change.  Then someone says &quot;HEY WHAT ABOUT FLASH&quot;, and you fire the CSS guy and the intermediary, and tell the designer to just DESIGN using ADOBES AWESOME AS FUCK TOOLS, and they do that and life starts to feel right again...

yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is fire hot or cold?? HOT!  Lol.</p>
<p>First, what is this talk of thin pizza?  </p>
<p>Second, man oh man where is the Flash talk?  You can&#8217;t have a modern internet without Flash talk.</p>
<p>Third, Flash is winning, again.  jQuery&#8217;s time in the sun is gone.  </p>
<p>Fourth, let me tell you about why jQuery&#8217;s time in the sun is gone.  Because expectations evolve, one day an accordion class is like &#8220;WOW&#8221;, and then the next day its like &#8220;I NEED SOMETHING MORE&#8221; (like pizza girl).  And then you say jQuery, what ya got, and jQuery says &#8220;Meh, I got nothing&#8221;, then you say, so do we dev a custom JS app???  And someone says &#8220;YES&#8221;, ok, lets hire a team of JS scripters, a CSS/XHTML guy, a design guy, and some guy to help them understand each other, and then you say &#8220;GO!&#8221;.  Later you realize that JS in the browser runs like a fat man up a mountain when you put any kind of complexity into the UI experience and changes to the look and feel take forever because it take 3 people to pull off a simple change.  Then someone says &#8220;HEY WHAT ABOUT FLASH&#8221;, and you fire the CSS guy and the intermediary, and tell the designer to just DESIGN using ADOBES AWESOME AS FUCK TOOLS, and they do that and life starts to feel right again&#8230;</p>
<p>yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-48962</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks LukeW! You are greatly appreciated. And thanks to Mr. Zeldman for posting the breakdown.  Now, if only he could have shipped us a fresh pie from Lou Malnati&#039;s.

Signed,

In NY with thin pizza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks LukeW! You are greatly appreciated. And thanks to Mr. Zeldman for posting the breakdown.  Now, if only he could have shipped us a fresh pie from Lou Malnati&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Signed,</p>
<p>In NY with thin pizza</p>
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		<title>By: Arjun Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjun Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow thanks LukeW for sharing your notes!

He always has insightful posts and these notes really do peak my interest in attending these types of events all the more. Perhaps Boston in May!

Thanks for sharing these links Jeffrey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow thanks LukeW for sharing your notes!</p>
<p>He always has insightful posts and these notes really do peak my interest in attending these types of events all the more. Perhaps Boston in May!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing these links Jeffrey.</p>
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		<title>By: John F Croston III</title>
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		<dc:creator>John F Croston III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always loved the all of Luke W&#039;s talks and his book is a must read. His notes of all conference panels he attends are just great and worth their weight in gold.

Thanks, Jeffrey, Eric, and the rest of the An Event Apart for a great conference, I assume, since I could not attend. Looking forward to see you all here in Washington, DC next fall. I have already asked for the days off so I can make, just in case they don&#039;t send me for work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always loved the all of Luke W&#8217;s talks and his book is a must read. His notes of all conference panels he attends are just great and worth their weight in gold.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jeffrey, Eric, and the rest of the An Event Apart for a great conference, I assume, since I could not attend. Looking forward to see you all here in Washington, DC next fall. I have already asked for the days off so I can make, just in case they don&#8217;t send me for work.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Dorny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Dorny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG ERIC STOLTZ AT AEA!?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG ERIC STOLTZ AT AEA!?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-48956</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should study the photo above and then go see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffwegner/4015344572/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what happens when the teleporter experiment goes horribly wrong---or is it &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should study the photo above and then go see <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffwegner/4015344572/" rel="nofollow">what happens when the teleporter experiment goes horribly wrong&#8212;or is it <em>right</em></a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design Lebanon</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/10/15/chicago-deep-dish/#comment-48955</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Design Lebanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wont be as good as being in the conference, but it is very helpful. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wont be as good as being in the conference, but it is very helpful. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: News Feeds - ANGUS11.COM</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Feeds - ANGUS11.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...]  Chicago Deep Dish   AEA Chicago, wrapped. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: asimjanjua.com &#124; janjx.com - ARTICLES</title>
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		<dc:creator>asimjanjua.com &#124; janjx.com - ARTICLES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] feeds from around the web, these are collected and updated several times a day!  Jeffrey Zeldman   Chicago Deep DishAEA Chicago, wrapped. Real type, real drag@font-face and browser performance: the bad news. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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