Comments on: DWWS 3e mini-site updates

By: Christof

Christof — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:48:13 +0000

I took both a screenshot of the page in FF3.5/WinVista with clear type enabled and also downloaded the font and made a screenshot in the font preview: Franklin Screenshot. I have seen something similar with a Frutiger Desktop font which I tried to use with @font-face. In the Franklin font esp the c in smaller font sized (12px) looks really strange. Or am I missing something in my setup?

By: Joen

Joen — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:34:49 +0000

Actually Franklin on Firefox 3.5/Windows (cleartype enabled) looks just plain awful.

That surprises me, as it has been optimized for this screen use. I’ll consult with my type wizards.

It looks just fine (read: as good as other cleartyped Windows fonts) on my Windows / Firefox 3.5.

By: Christof

Christof — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:27:49 +0000

That surprises me, as it has been optimized for this screen use. I’ll consult with my type wizards.

Thanks, would be very interesting indeed.

By: Jeffrey Zeldman

Jeffrey Zeldman — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:46:17 +0000

Can’t say I’m a fan of the pixelated head on the cover though.

You should have seen the pixelated head I wanted to run.

By: Jeffrey Zeldman

Jeffrey Zeldman — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:45:08 +0000

Actually Franklin on Firefox 3.5/Windows (cleartype enabled) looks just plain awful.

That surprises me, as it has been optimized for this screen use. I’ll consult with my type wizards.

By: Christof

Christof — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:25:40 +0000

Actually Franklin on Firefox 3.5/Windows (cleartype enabled) looks just plain awful. Will be a constant problem in the future I guess/fear. Why do you use a font that does not work on a major OS (I guess Franklin looks better on OSX)? I feel like a Linux user which frequently have (or maybe had) problems with fonts.

After watching Mark Boultons excellent presentation at @media in July I wondered when the first site I visit will fall into such a trap.

By: William King

William King — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:53:45 +0000

I am looking forward to the new edition; can’t wait. Thanks for your hard work and dedication. =)

By: RayMcK

RayMcK — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:07:54 +0000

The design is a throwback to an early HC and ID design. I like.

By: Dean Clatworthy

Dean Clatworthy — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:57:10 +0000

I’ll probably be finally adding this book to my collection, purely for reference and a good “Zeldman” read :) Can’t say I’m a fan of the pixelated head on the cover though.

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News Feeds - Welkom op www.ooldervesteherten.nl — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:23:08 +0000

[...] DWWS 3e mini-site updates The new mini-site for the 3rd Edition of Designing With Web Standards has been updated, with additional information about the substantially revised web standards guidebook, and with tweaks to the CSS which, one hopes, now bring embedded web font goodness to Internet Explorer users, as well as our friends on Safari, Firefox, and Opera. [...]

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By: Jeffrey Zeldman

Jeffrey Zeldman — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:39:19 +0000

I was able to download your copy of Franklin. It’s an OTF file. I just popped it into Fontcase and had no trouble. I could presumably stick it into my own CSS and use it on my own website.

Well, this is precisely the reason Microsoft has only supported EOT (not TrueType or OpenType) fonts with @font-face. It’s the reason font designers have been scared of web fonts. And it’s the reason people are so interested in middleman platforms like Typekit, which obscure the font so it can’t be found and used (or at least, not by mere mortals).

Meantime, we’re looking into simple non-disruptive options to hide the font.

By: Tim Brown

Tim Brown — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:26:58 +0000

Well, wow. Awesome!

So just playing devil’s advocate here. I was able to download your copy of Franklin. It’s an OTF file. I just popped it into Fontcase and had no trouble. I could presumably stick it into my own CSS and use it on my own website.

Is Font Bureau going to have people scouring the CSS of many websites, looking for this file? How will they protect it now that it’s loose?

By: Jeffrey Zeldman

Jeffrey Zeldman — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:09:20 +0000

You will soon be able to purchase web-licensed fonts directly from Font Bureau’s online store. You can’t do that quite yet. I pulled some strings. Okay, I begged. And some Polaroids might have been involved.

Kidding aside, you will be able to buy web-licensed fonts directly from Font Bureau’s online store soon. Presumably, other major and minor font design companies are gearing up for this as well.

By: Tim Brown

Tim Brown — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:35:58 +0000

Whoops—missed your announcement near the end of a previous post. So your Franklin is custom-licensed. Interesting....