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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-49218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Any ideas when we can get a copy of it in the UK?
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@jason millward: Don&#039;t have an exact date. US-published books generally take a month or two after the US release to show up in the UK. I blame the Tories.</description>
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Any ideas when we can get a copy of it in the UK?</p>
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<p>@jason millward: Don&#8217;t have an exact date. US-published books generally take a month or two after the US release to show up in the UK. I blame the Tories.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: jason millward</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-49193</link>
		<dc:creator>jason millward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really looking forward to this. The first book really got me into web standards and why they are so important to the web in general. ANy ideas when we can get a copy of it in the UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really looking forward to this. The first book really got me into web standards and why they are so important to the web in general. ANy ideas when we can get a copy of it in the UK?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Skuthorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-48012</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Skuthorpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeffrey Zeldman

To be fair I did initially learn HTML from a book all those years ago so when it&#039;s released on amazon.co.uk I may pick up a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeffrey Zeldman</p>
<p>To be fair I did initially learn HTML from a book all those years ago so when it&#8217;s released on amazon.co.uk I may pick up a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Links #68 &#124; GrantPalin.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Links #68 &#124; GrantPalin.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DWWS 3e Pre-Order &amp; Tout Page Jeffrey Zeldman touts the upcoming 3rd edition of his Designing with Web Standards book. A mini-site for the book is up, and the book itself can be pre-ordered. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DWWS 3e Pre-Order &amp; Tout Page Jeffrey Zeldman touts the upcoming 3rd edition of his Designing with Web Standards book. A mini-site for the book is up, and the book itself can be pre-ordered. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-47672</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evan Skuthorpe:

I know what you mean. But I&#039;ve personally learned quite a lot about the web from books by David Siegel, Lynda Weinman, Jeff Veen, Steve Krug, Eric Meyer, Joe Clark, Dan Cederholm, Jeremy Keith, Andy Budd, Curt Cloninger, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evan Skuthorpe:</p>
<p>I know what you mean. But I&#8217;ve personally learned quite a lot about the web from books by David Siegel, Lynda Weinman, Jeff Veen, Steve Krug, Eric Meyer, Joe Clark, Dan Cederholm, Jeremy Keith, Andy Budd, Curt Cloninger, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Skuthorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-47660</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Skuthorpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not owned one of your previous editions, I&#039;m sure they&#039;re great but there&#039;s just something about the web in a book that seems so outdated, hindering me investing in such a book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not owned one of your previous editions, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re great but there&#8217;s just something about the web in a book that seems so outdated, hindering me investing in such a book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-47644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Indeed… But that still means that the mini site does not work everywhere. So should we care? [etc.]
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

@Bertil Wennergren:

Good points, sir. 

But using a handheld CSS to send the G1 phone a different style sheet wouldn&#039;t fix the problem in desktop Chrome, and it would also deny the embedded font to other phone browsers that support @font-face but also read handheld CSS, such as Mobile Safari. Constructing a bug-driven workaround that sends one version of Webkit one CSS and another version of Webkit a different CSS may be possible, but it seems like a lot of quarters for a short dance.

I&#039;m inclined to sit this out and let Google fix it.</description>
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Indeed… But that still means that the mini site does not work everywhere. So should we care? [etc.]
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<p>@Bertil Wennergren:</p>
<p>Good points, sir. </p>
<p>But using a handheld CSS to send the G1 phone a different style sheet wouldn&#8217;t fix the problem in desktop Chrome, and it would also deny the embedded font to other phone browsers that support @font-face but also read handheld CSS, such as Mobile Safari. Constructing a bug-driven workaround that sends one version of Webkit one CSS and another version of Webkit a different CSS may be possible, but it seems like a lot of quarters for a short dance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m inclined to sit this out and let Google fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-47643</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil Stewart-Jones:

It&#039;s a file reference problem. IE requires that the &quot;font-family&quot; line use the font&#039;s name, not the file name, e.g. &quot;Franklin Medium,&quot; not &quot;FranklinITCPro-Med.&quot; Because this is a custom font, it uses a custom name, and my OS doesn&#039;t reveal that name to me, because Mac OS doesn&#039;t support EOT. I&#039;ve sent a note to the manufacturer and expect to hear back today. Meantime, I&#039;m guessing at alternate names. 

Please have a look in IE and see if it&#039;s working now. You&#039;ll know it&#039;s working, because you&#039;ll see Franklin Gothic instead of a default Windows sans-serif. 

Thanks for helping me trouble-shoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil Stewart-Jones:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a file reference problem. IE requires that the &#8220;font-family&#8221; line use the font&#8217;s name, not the file name, e.g. &#8220;Franklin Medium,&#8221; not &#8220;FranklinITCPro-Med.&#8221; Because this is a custom font, it uses a custom name, and my OS doesn&#8217;t reveal that name to me, because Mac OS doesn&#8217;t support EOT. I&#8217;ve sent a note to the manufacturer and expect to hear back today. Meantime, I&#8217;m guessing at alternate names. </p>
<p>Please have a look in IE and see if it&#8217;s working now. You&#8217;ll know it&#8217;s working, because you&#8217;ll see Franklin Gothic instead of a default Windows sans-serif. </p>
<p>Thanks for helping me trouble-shoot!</p>
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		<title>By: News Feeds - Welkom op www.ooldervesteherten.nl</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Feeds - Welkom op www.ooldervesteherten.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...]  What’s new in DWWS 3e   The 3rd Edition of Designing With Web Standards is coming soon to a bookstore near you. This significant revision to the foundational web standards text is packed with new ideas. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Phil Stewart-Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Stewart-Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, the font on the mini-site doesn&#039;t render as Franklin on any of my IEs - 6, 7 or 8.  I&#039;m not sure why that is.  The degrade is graceful enough, although if the &#039;section&#039; div were 650px wide rather than 550, the headline wouldn&#039;t wrap in the fallback sans-serif, and it&#039;d look &quot;nicer&quot;.  IMO.

As far as handhelds, the page looks fine in Blazer and Opera Mini on my not-very-modern Palm Centro.  System font of course, but I would have been astonished to see anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, the font on the mini-site doesn&#8217;t render as Franklin on any of my IEs &#8211; 6, 7 or 8.  I&#8217;m not sure why that is.  The degrade is graceful enough, although if the &#8217;section&#8217; div were 650px wide rather than 550, the headline wouldn&#8217;t wrap in the fallback sans-serif, and it&#8217;d look &#8220;nicer&#8221;.  IMO.</p>
<p>As far as handhelds, the page looks fine in Blazer and Opera Mini on my not-very-modern Palm Centro.  System font of course, but I would have been astonished to see anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertil Wennergren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertil Wennergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A big fail for Chrome, I agree. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed... But that still means that the mini site does not work everywhere. So should we care? Don&#039;t know... Maybe little used browsers don&#039;t count.

Anyway: It&#039;s possible to give the G1 Chrome a helping hand. It pays attention to stylesheets linked like this:

[link rel=&quot;stylesheet&quot; type=&quot;text/css&quot; href=&quot;handheld.css&quot; media=&quot;handheld, only screen and (max-device-width: 480px)&quot; /]

But other &quot;handhelds&quot; might not use such stylesheets, so it&#039;s not a universal solution. And some handhelds that might use it probably don&#039;t need it. So what do we do?

Maybe there&#039;s a chapter on this in the book..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A big fail for Chrome, I agree. </p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed&#8230; But that still means that the mini site does not work everywhere. So should we care? Don&#8217;t know&#8230; Maybe little used browsers don&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>Anyway: It&#8217;s possible to give the G1 Chrome a helping hand. It pays attention to stylesheets linked like this:</p>
<p>[link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="handheld.css" media="handheld, only screen and (max-device-width: 480px)" /]</p>
<p>But other &#8220;handhelds&#8221; might not use such stylesheets, so it&#8217;s not a universal solution. And some handhelds that might use it probably don&#8217;t need it. So what do we do?</p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s a chapter on this in the book..</p>
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		<title>By: Point studios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Point studios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...road of web standards, it&#039;s published 2003, I read it 2005. Toady after web 2.0 and after web standards is more familiar, alot of things has changed and a bunch of new standards and technologies are out there, Zeldman&#039;s 3rd edition of DWWS willcover most of those topics. Explore HTML 5, CSS3, and the future of markup. Learn how to put your content in front of the public and keep it there, regardless of how technologies and browsers may change in years to come. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;road of web standards, it&#8217;s published 2003, I read it 2005. Toady after web 2.0 and after web standards is more familiar, alot of things has changed and a bunch of new standards and technologies are out there, Zeldman&#8217;s 3rd edition of DWWS willcover most of those topics. Explore HTML 5, CSS3, and the future of markup. Learn how to put your content in front of the public and keep it there, regardless of how technologies and browsers may change in years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;JZ&quot;&gt; I consider my oddly jocular writing style, I wonder...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Livre/9782212115482/design-web-utiliser-les-standards&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;French translation of the  edition&lt;/a&gt; was great, except maybe for the &quot;untranslatable&quot; writing style. We have your blog for this. Can&#039;t comment on the Chinese and Korean ones :)
Well, I&#039;ll have to keep on coding with my feet for the next 18 months...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="JZ"><p> I consider my oddly jocular writing style, I wonder&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Livre/9782212115482/design-web-utiliser-les-standards" rel="nofollow">French translation of the  edition</a> was great, except maybe for the &#8220;untranslatable&#8221; writing style. We have your blog for this. Can&#8217;t comment on the Chinese and Korean ones :)<br />
Well, I&#8217;ll have to keep on coding with my feet for the next 18 months&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/23/dwws-3e-pre-order-tout-page/#comment-47603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

I hope to make it to AEA next year, since this year didn’t work out after attending 2 years in a row. Hope to steal you for a moment and maybe get it even singed ;)

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Petra, I&#039;ll be delighted to sign your book. I hope you can come!</description>
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<p>I hope to make it to AEA next year, since this year didn’t work out after attending 2 years in a row. Hope to steal you for a moment and maybe get it even singed ;)</p>
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<p>Petra, I&#8217;ll be delighted to sign your book. I hope you can come!</p>
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