Comments on: Web fonts and standards http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:51:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paragraphe.org | Ignacio Gondra | Design | For little and middle-sized enterprises , Web Design, Web Development, Information Architecture, Project Consultancy http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-49597 Paragraphe.org | Ignacio Gondra | Design | For little and middle-sized enterprises , Web Design, Web Development, Information Architecture, Project Consultancy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:26:58 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-49597 [...] this just a tecnical problem ? Not only : if in the new standart version of CSS, the CSS3, we can link to a file from the stylesheet and deliver a specific font regardless of the user computer set up, the Foundries are, as it is reasonable, restricting the [...] [...] this just a tecnical problem ? Not only : if in the new standart version of CSS, the CSS3, we can link to a file from the stylesheet and deliver a specific font regardless of the user computer set up, the Foundries are, as it is reasonable, restricting the [...]

]]> By: Sevdalimsin.Net Sohbet » Blog Archive » @font-face kullanımı http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-49527 Sevdalimsin.Net Sohbet » Blog Archive » @font-face kullanımı Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:36:54 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-49527 [...] http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...] [...] http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...]

]]> By: @font-face kullanımı http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-49517 @font-face kullanımı Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:50:08 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-49517 [...] http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...] [...] http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...]

]]> By: House Party – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-49490 House Party – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:03:31 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-49490 [...] Web Fonts and Standards: How real fonts work on the web via standard CSS. Making it work in IE. The licensing hurdle. Rise of the middlemen and their effect on the adoption of font embedding standards. — 17 August [...] [...] Web Fonts and Standards: How real fonts work on the web via standard CSS. Making it work in IE. The licensing hurdle. Rise of the middlemen and their effect on the adoption of font embedding standards. — 17 August [...]

]]> By: thinkinginweb.com, Episodio 12, Web fonts embedding services + improve typography on your site http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48925 thinkinginweb.com, Episodio 12, Web fonts embedding services + improve typography on your site Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:46:02 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48925 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] RECOMENDADO Excelente explicación de Jeffrey Zeldman: http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] RECOMENDADO Excelente explicación de Jeffrey Zeldman: http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...]

]]> By: Jugueteando con Typekit y Cufón » Criterion http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48895 Jugueteando con Typekit y Cufón » Criterion Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:07:11 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48895 [...] no ha sido implementada totalmente hasta la llegada de CSS3. Tenéis más info sobre este tema aquí [en]. El principal problema es que la compatibilidad con navegadores no es tan alta como me gustaría [...] [...] no ha sido implementada totalmente hasta la llegada de CSS3. Tenéis más info sobre este tema aquí [en]. El principal problema es que la compatibilidad con navegadores no es tan alta como me gustaría [...]

]]> By: Web fonts and standards | Stuff and Nonsense http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48537 Web fonts and standards | Stuff and Nonsense Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:03 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48537 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Web fonts and standards There is also the possibility that the middlemen, by increasing acceptance of web fonts, will [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Web fonts and standards There is also the possibility that the middlemen, by increasing acceptance of web fonts, will [...]

]]> By: Look at my face. No no, MY @FACE! | Form as Function http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48532 Look at my face. No no, MY @FACE! | Form as Function Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:38:49 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48532 [...] A nice overview of the current situation from Jeffery Zeldman [...] [...] A nice overview of the current situation from Jeffery Zeldman [...]

]]> By: font-face and Webfonts: How To Use Them | Designer Break English http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48245 font-face and Webfonts: How To Use Them | Designer Break English Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:20:01 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48245 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Webfonts and standards [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Webfonts and standards [...]

]]> By: Jeffrey Zeldman http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48224 Jeffrey Zeldman Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:49:33 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48224 <blockquote>Internet Explorer can support only EOTs for as long as it likes, so long as it introduces support for <code>format</code>, <code>local</code>, <code>font-weight</code>, <code>font-italic</code>, within the <code>@font-face</code> rule. That way <code>font-family</code> will work as it is supposed to.</blockquote> EOT removes hinting and does other things that makes fonts look crappy. Why should IE users have a worse visual experience than other people? If I use a licensed web font (as I have <a href="/dwws/">here</a>), only to discover that it looks bad in IE despite all the font-maker's expertise, it makes me question whether web fonts are really ready for prime time.

Internet Explorer can support only EOTs for as long as it likes, so long as it introduces support for format, local, font-weight, font-italic, within the @font-face rule. That way font-family will work as it is supposed to.

EOT removes hinting and does other things that makes fonts look crappy. Why should IE users have a worse visual experience than other people? If I use a licensed web font (as I have here), only to discover that it looks bad in IE despite all the font-maker’s expertise, it makes me question whether web fonts are really ready for prime time.

]]> By: Richard Rutter http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48220 Richard Rutter Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:14:43 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48220 Internet Explorer can support only EOTs for as long as it likes, so long as it introduces support for <code>format</code>, <code>local</code>, <code>font-weight</code>, <code>font-italic</code>, within the <code>@font-face</code> rule. That way <code>font-family</code> will work as it is supposed to. Internet Explorer can support only EOTs for as long as it likes, so long as it introduces support for format, local, font-weight, font-italic, within the @font-face rule. That way font-family will work as it is supposed to.

]]> By: はてなブックマーク - vantguarde - web - font http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-48116 はてなブックマーク - vantguarde - web - font Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:35:38 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-48116 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] web-fonts-and-standards www.zeldman.com [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] web-fonts-and-standards http://www.zeldman.com [...]

]]> By: Best I know … » A week late and a few thousand short http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-47983 Best I know … » A week late and a few thousand short Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:19:53 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-47983 [...] Fonts on the web - where we’re at : http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...] [...] Fonts on the web – where we’re at : http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/ [...]

]]> By: scott http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-47932 scott Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:41:19 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-47932 Jeffrey, Why are so many bending over backwards for font foundries? Though I'm not fond of the title, I'm <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/04/21/fuck-the-foundries" title=" Dive into Mark: "F*CK the Foundries" " rel="nofollow">with Mark</a> on this issue. As of 30-Jun-2009, cross-browser font-embedding using CSS arrived. It's available to the masses. <em>The hounds have been released!</em> <a href="http://randsco.com/index.php/2009/07/04/cross_browser_font_embedding" title=" How to embed fonts using CSS (cross-browser solution) " rel="nofollow"><strong>xBrowser Fancy Fonts (A Tutorial)</strong></a> Note to foundries: Better hustle up, because your ship is sailing. Cheers, -stk Jeffrey,

Why are so many bending over backwards for font foundries? Though I’m not fond of the title, I’m with Mark on this issue.

As of 30-Jun-2009, cross-browser font-embedding using CSS arrived. It’s available to the masses. The hounds have been released!

xBrowser Fancy Fonts (A Tutorial)

Note to foundries: Better hustle up, because your ship is sailing.

Cheers,
-stk

]]> By: Bryan Hoffman http://www.zeldman.com/2009/08/17/web-fonts-and-standards/#comment-47691 Bryan Hoffman Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:51:16 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=2293#comment-47691 I've used @font-face simply as a progressive enhancement tool for enabled users. When I first heard that Firefox 3.5 would be supporting it too I was excited that more users would experience the 'enhanced' version. Unfortunately it hasn't turned out so well... On a Windows machine, Firefox 3.5 renders the type like crap (The font in question here is <a href="http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/fontin.html" rel="nofollow">Fontin</a>) to the point it was unreadable, especially for body copy. I've since settled back on a standard <a href="http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/" rel="nofollow">font stack</a> and am now wondering if there will ever be a workable solution to this issue. Even if a standard is settled on, will the browsers render these fonts correctly? I’ve used @font-face simply as a progressive enhancement tool for enabled users. When I first heard that Firefox 3.5 would be supporting it too I was excited that more users would experience the ‘enhanced’ version.

Unfortunately it hasn’t turned out so well… On a Windows machine, Firefox 3.5 renders the type like crap (The font in question here is Fontin) to the point it was unreadable, especially for body copy.

I’ve since settled back on a standard font stack and am now wondering if there will ever be a workable solution to this issue.

Even if a standard is settled on, will the browsers render these fonts correctly?

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