http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:01:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-51151 Waebo » HTML 5 : La balise NSFW (Not Safe For Work) Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:50:35 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-51151 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] : Jeffrey Zeldman HTML, HTML 5 Développement web [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] : Jeffrey Zeldman HTML, HTML 5 Développement web [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-50353 HTML5 and Intellectual Freedom… « Overgeeked Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:03:16 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-50353 [...] geeking out about the neat things that are possible with the still-in-process HTML5, I came across this discussion about a possible Not Safe For Work (NSFW) tag that some wanted to have included in the new HTML [...] [...] geeking out about the neat things that are possible with the still-in-process HTML5, I came across this discussion about a possible Not Safe For Work (NSFW) tag that some wanted to have included in the new HTML [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-47967 Q Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:52:44 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-47967 Actually, the more I think about this, the more I think it's a fantastic idea. Since pics-label is agnostic to the rating system itself, a similarly generic <code><nsfw></code> tag (or, as in my to-be-moderated example above, <code><rating></code> tag) could even be used for things such as "spoilers" - which many, many websites have had to add custom, non-standard markup to selectively hide or show. Actually, the more I think about this, the more I think it’s a fantastic idea. Since pics-label is agnostic to the rating system itself, a similarly generic
<nsfw> tag (or, as in my to-be-moderated example above, <rating> tag) could even be used for things such as “spoilers” – which many, many websites have had to add custom, non-standard markup to selectively hide or show.

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-47963 Q Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:29:36 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-47963 Here's an example of the above idea, using a nonexistant content rating system involving graphic or explicit use of shoes and socks: <code> <rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" name="sh" value="0"> <rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" name="so" value="1"> This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it. </rating> </rating></code> The disadvantage to this approach is that it requires an href to the rating system for each advisory you want to set. So another option is to roll them all up into one tag and embed the pics-label rating, similar to the modern <b>style</b> attribute. <code><rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" rating="sh 0 so 1">This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it.</rating> </code> Still ugly, but not quite AS ugly. Of course, if W3C were to standardize on a rating schema, it could be reduced simply to <code><rating sh="0" so="1">This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it.</rating></code> but since there are several content rating systems already in wide usage that seems unlikely somehow. Here’s an example of the above idea, using a nonexistant content rating system involving graphic or explicit use of shoes and socks:

<rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" name="sh" value="0">
<rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" name="so" value="1">
This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it.
</rating>
</rating>
The disadvantage to this approach is that it requires an href to the rating system for each advisory you want to set. So another option is to roll them all up into one tag and embed the pics-label rating, similar to the modern style attribute.
<rating href="http://www.example.com/rsname" rating="sh 0 so 1">This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it.</rating>

Still ugly, but not quite AS ugly. Of course, if W3C were to standardize on a rating schema, it could be reduced simply to <rating sh="0" so="1">This sentence is offensive due to having socks in it.</rating> but since there are several content rating systems already in wide usage that seems unlikely somehow.

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-47930 Q Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:59:51 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-47930 I somehow feel like the "right way" would be an expansion of the <b>pics-label</b> metadata property rather than a whole new tag, especially when "NSFW" means so many different things to so many different people. Then again, pics-label is only barely a standard itself, with a swamp of four different rating systems theoretically supported... either way, revisiting the topic seems like a good idea. I'm certainly not against an NSFW tag for the reasons stated in this blog, though. Such a tag wouldn't "stick presentation and behavior back in markup" any more than <em> does; it merely indicates a change in the content rating of the stuff inside, and leaves it up to the browser and CSS (with, of course, a commonly agreed-upon default) as to how to handle it. I somehow feel like the “right way” would be an expansion of the pics-label metadata property rather than a whole new tag, especially when “NSFW” means so many different things to so many different people. Then again, pics-label is only barely a standard itself, with a swamp of four different rating systems theoretically supported… either way, revisiting the topic seems like a good idea. I’m certainly not against an NSFW tag for the reasons stated in this blog, though. Such a tag wouldn’t “stick presentation and behavior back in markup” any more than <em> does; it merely indicates a change in the content rating of the stuff inside, and leaves it up to the browser and CSS (with, of course, a commonly agreed-upon default) as to how to handle it.

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-47635 °Ù¶ÈËÑË÷_Most NSFW site Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:37:24 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-47635 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-47597 Richard@Home | Filtering out the crap so you don't have to Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:22:48 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-47597 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] NSFW tag in HTML 5 – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] NSFW tag in HTML 5 – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-46824 Taking it too far in HTML 5? - Azure-Sky Design Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:08:40 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-46824 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] requests.  Read the following article until you understand what it's talking about:  NSFW Tag in HTML 5.What this proposal is asking for is a tag in HTML 5, the "future" of HTML, that will make [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] requests.  Read the following article until you understand what it's talking about:  NSFW Tag in HTML 5.What this proposal is asking for is a tag in HTML 5, the "future" of HTML, that will make [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43774 NSFW tag in HTML 5 : programming Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:29:51 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43774 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] tag in HTML 5 : programmingother redditsprogrammingcommentsrelatedNSFW tag in HTML 554 points | 108 comments |  submitted 16 [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] tag in HTML 5 : programmingother redditsprogrammingcommentsrelatedNSFW tag in HTML 554 points | 108 comments |  submitted 16 [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43588 HTML Info » A HTML 5 kiszorítja a Flasht és a Silverlightot? Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:00:16 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43588 [...] A hosszú idÅ‘ alatt bizonyára sok változáson megy keresztül, talán tényleg belekerül az <nsfw> elem [...] [...] A hosszú idÅ‘ alatt bizonyára sok változáson megy keresztül, talán tényleg belekerül az <nsfw> elem [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43579 OLD - URLs from #sailormoon.hu on Sunday, 14th June 2009 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:52:04 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43579 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] no title 23:45http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/NSFW tag in HTML 5 – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report «»Hide [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] no title 23:45http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/NSFW tag in HTML 5 – Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report «»Hide [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43544 Fran Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:24:10 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43544 An "authorize" tag could be used not only for NSFW content, but for other sensitive images or anything that would require either a deliberate user action or a browser setting before being displayed. An “authorize” tag could be used not only for NSFW content, but for other sensitive images or anything that would require either a deliberate user action or a browser setting before being displayed.

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43474 Tech tabloids, Project Harmony, and the proposal for a ‘Flash’ tag in HTML5 | Commented Out Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:06:23 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43474 [...] write it’s will? I don’t think so. And as it stands now,  there are still things like NSFW tags being suggested. Even more disheartening to me is the fact that some of the biggest names in the [...] [...] write it’s will? I don’t think so. And as it stands now,  there are still things like NSFW tags being suggested. Even more disheartening to me is the fact that some of the biggest names in the [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43445 betacontinua » HTML5 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:03:35 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43445 [...] nuevas etiquetas que quieren que aparezca en esta nueva revisión. Lo último que he oido es que quieren que haya una etiqueta NSFW (<nsfw>) para prevenir de aquellos enlaces que no sean propicios de visionar cuando estamos en el [...] [...] nuevas etiquetas que quieren que aparezca en esta nueva revisión. Lo último que he oido es que quieren que haya una etiqueta NSFW (<nsfw>) para prevenir de aquellos enlaces que no sean propicios de visionar cuando estamos en el [...]

]]> http://www.zeldman.com/2009/06/08/not-safe-for-work-tag-in-html-5/#comment-43435 Rachel Lehman Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:07:07 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=1283#comment-43435 It's an amusing idea, but don't we already have this with the content rating meta tag? And nobody uses it. It’s an amusing idea, but don’t we already have this with the content rating meta tag? And nobody uses it.

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