Comments on: Phoneless http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:54:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shanus http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38828 Shanus Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:04:57 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38828 Jeff, stop whining. It's one of the hottest products on Earth right now. The fact you had to wait an hour or two to get one is not unreasonable. You're doing the very unappealing American thing of being ME-CENTRIC. Which in a 6 billion+ world, just doesn't make sense. Jeff, stop whining. It’s one of the hottest products on Earth right now. The fact you had to wait an hour or two to get one is not unreasonable. You’re doing the very unappealing American thing of being ME-CENTRIC. Which in a 6 billion+ world, just doesn’t make sense.

]]> By: Paul Johns http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38788 Paul Johns Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:24:27 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38788 My sister in law is currently having issues with her iPod. She bought one about 2 years ago. 1 year later (ago) it died, and she had to by a brand new one to replace it. A few weeks ago it died, less than a year after she bought it. Yesterday she brought it to an Apple store to have it fixed, but they replaced it, probably with a refurbished one. Today, less than 24 hours later, it died, and she now needs to go back and get it replaced again. Judging by this pattern, she shouldn't be able to leave the store without it dying this time. When my iPod Nano 3G dies (and it will), I'm going to buy a Zune. I like Microsoft better than Apple anyway. I love my iPod Nano though because it was a wedding gift. But I still think Apple sucks. My sister in law is currently having issues with her iPod. She bought one about 2 years ago. 1 year later (ago) it died, and she had to by a brand new one to replace it. A few weeks ago it died, less than a year after she bought it. Yesterday she brought it to an Apple store to have it fixed, but they replaced it, probably with a refurbished one. Today, less than 24 hours later, it died, and she now needs to go back and get it replaced again. Judging by this pattern, she shouldn’t be able to leave the store without it dying this time.

When my iPod Nano 3G dies (and it will), I’m going to buy a Zune. I like Microsoft better than Apple anyway. I love my iPod Nano though because it was a wedding gift. But I still think Apple sucks.

]]> By: Leon P http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38778 Leon P Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:58:26 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38778 The moral is: 1) You only need a Nokia 2210 - it'll last for 20 years and it'll call and send texts with zero problems. 2) Apple hardware is pretty-looking rubbish: eMac screen, ipod battery life, ibook power leads (literally) going up in smoke. Resist, citizens! The moral is:

1) You only need a Nokia 2210 – it’ll last for 20 years and it’ll call and send texts with zero problems.

2) Apple hardware is pretty-looking rubbish: eMac screen, ipod battery life, ibook power leads (literally) going up in smoke.

Resist, citizens!

]]> By: barry http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38766 barry Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:34:37 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38766 I always thought apple care, like phone insurance and many other computers 'extended cover' was for the careless, clumsy or clueless. I dropped my latest phone not long ago, and as I picked it up - unharmed - I remember thinkng that If I did that with the new iPhone I planed on buying this month, I might be so lucky. I've love to know, honestly, if you feel that the screen has had a helping hand in it's untimely demise, or if this is genuinely bad form on Apple's part. Lets face it, we've all pulled the 'it just stopped working, honest' face in front of store clerks, in the hope of a somewhat undeserved reprieve... promising ourselves we'll be more careful next time... Tell us the truth Jeffrey, should we all get apple cover, or just keep our phones away from famous bloggers? I always thought apple care, like phone insurance and many other computers ‘extended cover’ was for the careless, clumsy or clueless.

I dropped my latest phone not long ago, and as I picked it up – unharmed – I remember thinkng that If I did that with the new iPhone I planed on buying this month, I might be so lucky.

I’ve love to know, honestly, if you feel that the screen has had a helping hand in it’s untimely demise, or if this is genuinely bad form on Apple’s part.

Lets face it, we’ve all pulled the ‘it just stopped working, honest’ face in front of store clerks, in the hope of a somewhat undeserved reprieve… promising ourselves we’ll be more careful next time…

Tell us the truth Jeffrey, should we all get apple cover, or just keep our phones away from famous bloggers?

]]> By: jen http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38763 jen Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:47:58 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38763 I have been frustrated with technology's continued use of consumers as their beta testers at what seems to be a great financial cost to the consumer and an undeniable and irreparable price to the environment and our cultural health. Yes, landfills are filling with toxic components. But look at the mindsets of human beings who need to purchase the latest trend, encouraged even more by the lifespan of these trendy beta products. Industrial designers, physical interface designers: PLEASE THINK AHEAD and design intelligent physical devices that can withstand time and use, that can be updated, have batteries replaced/refreshed, and not just throw out and get new. This has been a complaint with the car and appliance industries for decades. It appears that the profit margin is given far more weight than the sound judgement margin. My family made an iPhone 3g purchase this past wknd. Already, there is a problem that "No SIM card installed" and we have to get service. :( I purchased my iPhone 2 mos before the 3g came out. I've had no real problems, apart from some software latency. I guess my twice the price bought me enhanced quality. I waited as long as I could, for a user-tested model I felt confident in. This is my first cellphone ever. I am certainly not an early adopted. Instead, I listen to and watch people who are. I have been frustrated with technology’s continued use of consumers as their beta testers at what seems to be a great financial cost to the consumer and an undeniable and irreparable price to the environment and our cultural health. Yes, landfills are filling with toxic components. But look at the mindsets of human beings who need to purchase the latest trend, encouraged even more by the lifespan of these trendy beta products.

Industrial designers, physical interface designers: PLEASE THINK AHEAD and design intelligent physical devices that can withstand time and use, that can be updated, have batteries replaced/refreshed, and not just throw out and get new.

This has been a complaint with the car and appliance industries for decades. It appears that the profit margin is given far more weight than the sound judgement margin.

My family made an iPhone 3g purchase this past wknd. Already, there is a problem that “No SIM card installed” and we have to get service. :(

I purchased my iPhone 2 mos before the 3g came out. I’ve had no real problems, apart from some software latency. I guess my twice the price bought me enhanced quality. I waited as long as I could, for a user-tested model I felt confident in. This is my first cellphone ever. I am certainly not an early adopted. Instead, I listen to and watch people who are.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38762 Jeff Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:28:36 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38762 Jeffrey I am thinking this is a problem in major cities. My cousin lives in upstate New York and had no problem going in during the day and purchasing two iPhones on the spot. New York City however never has them available! Good phone, terrible business strategy! Jeffrey

I am thinking this is a problem in major cities. My cousin lives in upstate New York and had no problem going in during the day and purchasing two iPhones on the spot. New York City however never has them available! Good phone, terrible business strategy!

]]> By: Jeffrey Zeldman http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38761 Jeffrey Zeldman Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:47:20 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38761 @Wiley: *Applause* Very nicely done! @Wiley:

*Applause*

Very nicely done!

]]> By: Stephen http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38760 Stephen Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:26:39 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38760 Jeffrey, I adore you, but I cannot pity you for purchasing Apple v1.0 hardware. As a technophile, it was tough not to pick an iPhone up. But I survived. I endured. And so can you. Jeffrey, I adore you, but I cannot pity you for purchasing Apple v1.0 hardware. As a technophile, it was tough not to pick an iPhone up. But I survived. I endured. And so can you.

]]> By: Luke Dorny http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38757 Luke Dorny Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:47:19 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38757 :( :(

]]> By: Wiley http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38754 Wiley Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:37:27 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38754 iPhones, like hearts, will never be made entirely practical until they can be made unbreakable. iPhones, like hearts, will never be made entirely practical until they can be made unbreakable.

]]> By: jodycakes http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38753 jodycakes Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:28:40 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38753 Bravo Zeldman...Bravo. I know the frustration...this happened with my 1st generation IPOD that somehow had a "glitch" and I would stand and wait...watching all the people that seem to not have a computer at home, check their email at the Apple Store - WTF? Bravo Zeldman…Bravo.
I know the frustration…this happened with my 1st generation IPOD that somehow had a “glitch” and I would stand and wait…watching all the people that seem to not have a computer at home, check their email at the Apple Store – WTF?

]]> By: Josh Stodola http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38750 Josh Stodola Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:51:34 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38750 [sarcasm]Wow, I am really surprised to hear this![/sarcasm] I don't believe it's any coincedence that your product died two weeks after the warranty ran out. They know how long their junk lasts. And then you went and bought another iPhone. Too funny. That good old "turn the other cheek" mentality, eh? Time to face the facts: Apple hardware blows. Let's all pray you were <em>way off</em> on <a href="http://www.zeldman.com/2008/01/10/everything-that-can-be-iphonelike-will-be/" rel="nofollow">this</a> prediction. [sarcasm]Wow, I am really surprised to hear this![/sarcasm] I don’t believe it’s any coincedence that your product died two weeks after the warranty ran out. They know how long their junk lasts. And then you went and bought another iPhone. Too funny. That good old “turn the other cheek” mentality, eh? Time to face the facts: Apple hardware blows.

Let’s all pray you were way off on this prediction.

]]> By: Jason Weaver http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38747 Jason Weaver Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:00:44 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38747 I've always wanted an iPhone since before they came out but to be honest I wont buy one because I like my current phone service provider. I’ve always wanted an iPhone since before they came out but to be honest I wont buy one because I like my current phone service provider.

]]> By: John Wise http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38745 John Wise Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:47:24 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38745 Forgot to mention; if you need an AV cable, you can pick one up at http://store.sleepers.net for $20 vs. Apple's $49. I figure if I'm going to get nickled & dimed, I might as well figure out how to spend less of them :) Forgot to mention; if you need an AV cable, you can pick one up at http://store.sleepers.net for $20 vs. Apple’s $49. I figure if I’m going to get nickled & dimed, I might as well figure out how to spend less of them :)

]]> By: John Wise http://www.zeldman.com/2008/09/06/phoneless/#comment-38744 John Wise Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:40:33 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=402#comment-38744 For what it's worth, you can pick up a decent 3G-compatible Maxell dock with USB, Firewire, audio and power cables for $19 ($13+$6 shipping) from http://store.everythingicafe.com/maxell-ipod-charging-station/52A142A1970A.htm. $13 sure beats the $29 Apple wants for their overpriced dock, which apparently doesn't include any cables. For what it’s worth, you can pick up a decent 3G-compatible Maxell dock with USB, Firewire, audio and power cables for $19 ($13+$6 shipping) from http://store.everythingicafe.com/maxell-ipod-charging-station/52A142A1970A.htm. $13 sure beats the $29 Apple wants for their overpriced dock, which apparently doesn’t include any cables.

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