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		<title>By: Evan Skuthorpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Skuthorpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve experienced death in the family twice. My uncle when I was 14 or 15 and my father almost 2 years ago now. I&#039;m 26 and I still find it difficult to not be fatalistic about life now. Some things just seem almost pointless to me and other things I want to treasure. It can be difficult for a young one to understand life and death but at the very least it&#039;s her first step towards understanding. Just thank your lucky stars that it wasn&#039;t her own daddy or mummy who passed away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve experienced death in the family twice. My uncle when I was 14 or 15 and my father almost 2 years ago now. I&#8217;m 26 and I still find it difficult to not be fatalistic about life now. Some things just seem almost pointless to me and other things I want to treasure. It can be difficult for a young one to understand life and death but at the very least it&#8217;s her first step towards understanding. Just thank your lucky stars that it wasn&#8217;t her own daddy or mummy who passed away.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mustafa Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jeffery - a death of a family is a very hard thing. I wish you and your family blessings, and peace. My condolences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jeffery &#8211; a death of a family is a very hard thing. I wish you and your family blessings, and peace. My condolences.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/08/07/death/#comment-38510</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad died a few years ago, and it was one of the most moving experiences of my life. He was a beautiful, compassionate man...the kind of guy who considered anyone a potential friend. He was an architect, artist, guitar player, singer, pacifist, and the most nonjudgmental person I&#039;ve ever met. He was home for a week with hospice before he died, and our house was full of family and friends the entire week...his 25 grandkids flew in from around the country, all seven of his kids were there. It was like family reunion with a packed house. He had multiple people at his side for the entire week expect for about a half hour when we told him &quot;Okay Dad, sometimes people prefer to die alone, and we haven&#039;t even given you that chance! So you have a half hour, and we&#039;ll all leave the room. After that, you&#039;re stuck with us.&quot;

We like to think he not only taught us all how to live, but how to die as well. And now there are moments when the loss hits full force, especially when I hear certain songs that he used to sing. He sang at church for my entire life, so it&#039;s usually in church that it hits me...especially because he designed the church! I see him in my son, and that glimpse of the man inside the boy reminds me of how we&#039;re all connected, and that my 5 year old is a little man inside a boy&#039;s body, and that I have the honor and responsibility to help shape that man (so don&#039;t mess up!)

At any rate, after my dad died, a friend passed along a book call &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Final-Gifts-Understanding-Awareness-Communications/dp/0553378767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Final Gifts&lt;/a&gt;, written by two hospice nurses about their experiences in helping dying people. It was helpful even after dad&#039;s death, but would most benefit someone who is facing the death of a loved one so that they can help that person on the journey. Highly recommended.

Another book I love is the children&#039;s book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Grandads-Prayers-Earth-Douglas-Wood/dp/076360660X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1219417240&amp;sr=1-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grandads Prayers of the Earth&lt;/a&gt; about a young boy who loses his grandpa. Probably because it reminds me of my dad. Beautifully illustrated and thoughtfully written...another good read.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad died a few years ago, and it was one of the most moving experiences of my life. He was a beautiful, compassionate man&#8230;the kind of guy who considered anyone a potential friend. He was an architect, artist, guitar player, singer, pacifist, and the most nonjudgmental person I&#8217;ve ever met. He was home for a week with hospice before he died, and our house was full of family and friends the entire week&#8230;his 25 grandkids flew in from around the country, all seven of his kids were there. It was like family reunion with a packed house. He had multiple people at his side for the entire week expect for about a half hour when we told him &#8220;Okay Dad, sometimes people prefer to die alone, and we haven&#8217;t even given you that chance! So you have a half hour, and we&#8217;ll all leave the room. After that, you&#8217;re stuck with us.&#8221;</p>
<p>We like to think he not only taught us all how to live, but how to die as well. And now there are moments when the loss hits full force, especially when I hear certain songs that he used to sing. He sang at church for my entire life, so it&#8217;s usually in church that it hits me&#8230;especially because he designed the church! I see him in my son, and that glimpse of the man inside the boy reminds me of how we&#8217;re all connected, and that my 5 year old is a little man inside a boy&#8217;s body, and that I have the honor and responsibility to help shape that man (so don&#8217;t mess up!)</p>
<p>At any rate, after my dad died, a friend passed along a book call <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Final-Gifts-Understanding-Awareness-Communications/dp/0553378767" rel="nofollow">Final Gifts</a>, written by two hospice nurses about their experiences in helping dying people. It was helpful even after dad&#8217;s death, but would most benefit someone who is facing the death of a loved one so that they can help that person on the journey. Highly recommended.</p>
<p>Another book I love is the children&#8217;s book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Grandads-Prayers-Earth-Douglas-Wood/dp/076360660X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1219417240&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Grandads Prayers of the Earth</a> about a young boy who loses his grandpa. Probably because it reminds me of my dad. Beautifully illustrated and thoughtfully written&#8230;another good read.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nolan</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/08/07/death/#comment-38433</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the guy who complained about Zeldman philosophizing:

For years I have read My Glamorous Life posts because Zeldman’s writing is so moving. He helped me process my feelings about 9/11 with his gut-wrenching posts after the event. His musings on being a parent are poignant and insightful. This section of his blog is not even meant to be technology-related. What are you thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the guy who complained about Zeldman philosophizing:</p>
<p>For years I have read My Glamorous Life posts because Zeldman’s writing is so moving. He helped me process my feelings about 9/11 with his gut-wrenching posts after the event. His musings on being a parent are poignant and insightful. This section of his blog is not even meant to be technology-related. What are you thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father died when I was 8 and my sisters were 4 and 2, some 25 years ago. I often still cry when I think about it; it tore a hole in the world that never quite mended. Sometimes he shows up randomly in dreams, and usually that&#039;s a good thing. I love seeing his picture, or hearing stories that make him more real. I hope your little girl can get to know her great-grandma better over the years, even if it&#039;s 2nd-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father died when I was 8 and my sisters were 4 and 2, some 25 years ago. I often still cry when I think about it; it tore a hole in the world that never quite mended. Sometimes he shows up randomly in dreams, and usually that&#8217;s a good thing. I love seeing his picture, or hearing stories that make him more real. I hope your little girl can get to know her great-grandma better over the years, even if it&#8217;s 2nd-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dundon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Dundon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I&#039;m sorry to hear about your grandmother. It&#039;s always sad to lose somebody by death.

I&#039;ve had a couple of experiences with death, the first three (two grandfathers and one neighbor who was like a grandfather) were sad, no doubt. But they were sick and I could almost tell they weren&#039;t going to live much longer. 

The most recent death, however, involved an old friend of my brother and I. We didn&#039;t hang out much at the time of his death; not because of any falling out, but just different interests and responsibilities as we grew up. It was sudden and he was young, so that was a lot different for us.

Back to the first three deaths, the little ones in the family have coped with these losses. They don&#039;t remember that much of our friend. Not in a false hope sort of way, but in a truthful hope.

In reply to the earlier comments, calling the desire to no die &quot;selfish&quot; is inaccurate. No one is truly meant to die. Life was really meant to be lived forever.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.&lt;em&gt;1 Thess. 4:13-14&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what we and the little ones go by. Of course, we &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:6-7;&amp;version=9;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;don&#039;t get all finicky about &quot;who&#039;s where&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s not our job. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;m sorry to hear about your grandmother. It&#8217;s always sad to lose somebody by death.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a couple of experiences with death, the first three (two grandfathers and one neighbor who was like a grandfather) were sad, no doubt. But they were sick and I could almost tell they weren&#8217;t going to live much longer. </p>
<p>The most recent death, however, involved an old friend of my brother and I. We didn&#8217;t hang out much at the time of his death; not because of any falling out, but just different interests and responsibilities as we grew up. It was sudden and he was young, so that was a lot different for us.</p>
<p>Back to the first three deaths, the little ones in the family have coped with these losses. They don&#8217;t remember that much of our friend. Not in a false hope sort of way, but in a truthful hope.</p>
<p>In reply to the earlier comments, calling the desire to no die &#8220;selfish&#8221; is inaccurate. No one is truly meant to die. Life was really meant to be lived forever.</p>
<blockquote><p>But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.<em>1 Thess. 4:13-14</em></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what we and the little ones go by. Of course, we <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:6-7;&amp;version=9;" rel="nofollow">don&#8217;t get all finicky about &#8220;who&#8217;s where&#8221;</a>. That&#8217;s not our job. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two years ago I lost my father-in-law.  He had been confined to bed with a terminal dementia condition for 14 months of my grandson&#039;s 2 1/2 years. Great-grandpa was there physically, but not mentally yet the bond between them was amazing - built during those first months when he was growing so fast mentally and great-grandpa was a regular part of his life, but in some ways it was rather casual.  Great-grandpa being confined to bed was just the current &quot;normal&quot; to him.

For months afterward there had been no mention of great-grandpa. Almost a year after his death, my grandson asked one day if great-grandpa was still sick.  The answer was that great-grandpa was in heaven, but the response was &quot;but is he still sick?&quot; When told that people in heaven are not sick, his response was simply &quot;Ok&quot; and that was the end of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago I lost my father-in-law.  He had been confined to bed with a terminal dementia condition for 14 months of my grandson&#8217;s 2 1/2 years. Great-grandpa was there physically, but not mentally yet the bond between them was amazing &#8211; built during those first months when he was growing so fast mentally and great-grandpa was a regular part of his life, but in some ways it was rather casual.  Great-grandpa being confined to bed was just the current &#8220;normal&#8221; to him.</p>
<p>For months afterward there had been no mention of great-grandpa. Almost a year after his death, my grandson asked one day if great-grandpa was still sick.  The answer was that great-grandpa was in heaven, but the response was &#8220;but is he still sick?&#8221; When told that people in heaven are not sick, his response was simply &#8220;Ok&#8221; and that was the end of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/08/07/death/#comment-38406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for sharing your experiences. Some of the comments are so painful I can barely bring myself to read them. My heart and gratitude go out to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for sharing your experiences. Some of the comments are so painful I can barely bring myself to read them. My heart and gratitude go out to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our neighbour lost her husband to a brain tumor 3 years ago. He was dead within 3 months of being diagnosed. She has a 12 yr old son who was 9 at the time. He has not spoken about his father since his death. He refuses to even mention his name or talk about it. No tears, no counselling, no nothing.

I can only imagine the long term effects that this will have on the rest of his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our neighbour lost her husband to a brain tumor 3 years ago. He was dead within 3 months of being diagnosed. She has a 12 yr old son who was 9 at the time. He has not spoken about his father since his death. He refuses to even mention his name or talk about it. No tears, no counselling, no nothing.</p>
<p>I can only imagine the long term effects that this will have on the rest of his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Sachin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sachin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death cannot be defined but can only be felt...I know how it feels like when some dear one is lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death cannot be defined but can only be felt&#8230;I know how it feels like when some dear one is lost.</p>
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		<title>By: fonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>fonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the death of the grandma of a little friend of his, my 5-yr-old nephew has decided &quot;he won&#039;t grow up&quot; so that my father &quot;doesn&#039;t go to heaven&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the death of the grandma of a little friend of his, my 5-yr-old nephew has decided &#8220;he won&#8217;t grow up&#8221; so that my father &#8220;doesn&#8217;t go to heaven&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ulrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Gravity&lt;/b&gt;
When a human being is born we have no idea what gravity is. It is a
learned concept. Small children learn about when they fall. That is usually the first encounter. Gravity can be as simple as that or as complex as someone dying. As human beings we grapple with
what gravity is every day. We never understand it. The wise learn to respect it. We always grieve, rationalize, and ponder over the subject of it but deny the object exists. As if are able to change the relative attributes of an event.

I went through the same thing with my great-grandma. Grandma Henry was was supposedly blind she always made me walk her to the dining table and to the bathroom. I was four. One Christmas she was looking intently at the tree and said to my grandfather, &quot;Elmer, you have a green bulb out on the tree&quot;. At four years old she taught me compassion. I sat whit her while she passed. She squeezed my hand, smiled, and shut her eyes.

I guess the best thing we can do while we are here is to be good to each other. To have compassion and empathy. We will never quite understand gravity but those qualities make it easier to deal with.

Peace to you and your family, Jeffrey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Gravity</strong><br />
When a human being is born we have no idea what gravity is. It is a<br />
learned concept. Small children learn about when they fall. That is usually the first encounter. Gravity can be as simple as that or as complex as someone dying. As human beings we grapple with<br />
what gravity is every day. We never understand it. The wise learn to respect it. We always grieve, rationalize, and ponder over the subject of it but deny the object exists. As if are able to change the relative attributes of an event.</p>
<p>I went through the same thing with my great-grandma. Grandma Henry was was supposedly blind she always made me walk her to the dining table and to the bathroom. I was four. One Christmas she was looking intently at the tree and said to my grandfather, &#8220;Elmer, you have a green bulb out on the tree&#8221;. At four years old she taught me compassion. I sat whit her while she passed. She squeezed my hand, smiled, and shut her eyes.</p>
<p>I guess the best thing we can do while we are here is to be good to each other. To have compassion and empathy. We will never quite understand gravity but those qualities make it easier to deal with.</p>
<p>Peace to you and your family, Jeffrey.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my son was growing up we used to drive by a graveyard and he would always want to know what it was. I did not know how to explain, so I would always change the subject.

When he was about 5 we inevitably visited a graveyard in the UK.  Put in the spot, I explained that the graves were the remains of people who had lived a long time ago, way before there were cars or trains or air planes and people had to walk everywhere they went.

My son then asked me, “was it all the walking that killed them?” Somehow, my weakness and his strength of understanding was reassuring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my son was growing up we used to drive by a graveyard and he would always want to know what it was. I did not know how to explain, so I would always change the subject.</p>
<p>When he was about 5 we inevitably visited a graveyard in the UK.  Put in the spot, I explained that the graves were the remains of people who had lived a long time ago, way before there were cars or trains or air planes and people had to walk everywhere they went.</p>
<p>My son then asked me, “was it all the walking that killed them?” Somehow, my weakness and his strength of understanding was reassuring.</p>
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		<title>By: monrobot</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post, Jeffrey. On the subject of fiction and death, &#039;Pet Sematary&#039; by Stephen King is one of the most affecting books on parental love you are likely to read. Seriously. I re-read it a few months ago, this time as a parent, and it blew me away. Acceptance is possibly the single biggest theme of the book. Schlock horror ending aside, it&#039;s a beautiful piece of work. (Haven&#039;t seen the movie, no desire to either.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post, Jeffrey. On the subject of fiction and death, &#8216;Pet Sematary&#8217; by Stephen King is one of the most affecting books on parental love you are likely to read. Seriously. I re-read it a few months ago, this time as a parent, and it blew me away. Acceptance is possibly the single biggest theme of the book. Schlock horror ending aside, it&#8217;s a beautiful piece of work. (Haven&#8217;t seen the movie, no desire to either.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pennell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Pennell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note, my 4-year-old, who is heavily into her superheroes at the moment, asked my father where his father was. &quot;He&#039;s dead,&quot; he replied.

She thought for a moment, then asked &quot;Who killed him?&quot;

Because of course everyone must have an evil nemesis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, my 4-year-old, who is heavily into her superheroes at the moment, asked my father where his father was. &#8220;He&#8217;s dead,&#8221; he replied.</p>
<p>She thought for a moment, then asked &#8220;Who killed him?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because of course everyone must have an evil nemesis&#8230;</p>
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