Comments on: ALA 257: the why and how of Ruby on Rails http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:24:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Neo-CluB.com : ¤ÅѺ¢Í§¤¹ÃÑ¡¹ÕâÍ http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-36792 Neo-CluB.com : ¤ÅѺ¢Í§¤¹ÃÑ¡¹ÕâÍ Sun, 04 May 2008 18:52:07 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-36792 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] ALA 257: the why and how of Ruby on Rails Issue No. 257 of A List Apart, for people who make websites, is about the why and how of Ruby on Rails. Learn how to get started with Dan Benjamin, and find out from Michael Slater if your web app hits the "RoR sweet spot." [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] ALA 257: the why and how of Ruby on Rails Issue No. 257 of A List Apart, for people who make websites, is about the why and how of Ruby on Rails. Learn how to get started with Dan Benjamin, and find out from Michael Slater if your web app hits the “RoR sweet spot.” [...]

]]> By: Adam http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35269 Adam Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:46:37 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35269 Thank you Michael, great job. In the era of technological development, we come across with many innovations every day. The good thing here is that the new projects offered successfully meet the users’ requirements and are really promising one. Two days before I came across with another interesting approach, offered by a non-profit organization named OMFICA. My advice to everybody check www.omfica.com, you will find a lot of interesting stuff there, the implementation of presented ideas can be accepted as a beginning of the new era in the Internet Thank you Michael, great job. In the era of technological development, we come across with many innovations every day. The good thing here is that the new projects offered successfully meet the users’ requirements and are really promising one.
Two days before I came across with another interesting approach, offered by a non-profit organization named OMFICA. My advice to everybody check http://www.omfica.com, you will find a lot of interesting stuff there, the implementation of presented ideas can be accepted as a beginning of the new era in the Internet

]]> By: Warshaw http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35268 Warshaw Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:08:01 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35268 ALA has also set a precedent for discussing server-side technology, with several articles related to PHP popping up in the past. Ruby (the language itself) is a major push forward in making it more feasible for more people to become involved in software development. The day may come where the jack-of-all-trades web designer might wish to or have to be able to handle some, much, or all of his own scripting. ALA would be mistaken to ignore such things. ALA has also set a precedent for discussing server-side technology, with several articles related to PHP popping up in the past. Ruby (the language itself) is a major push forward in making it more feasible for more people to become involved in software development. The day may come where the jack-of-all-trades web designer might wish to or have to be able to handle some, much, or all of his own scripting. ALA would be mistaken to ignore such things.

]]> By: dusoft http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35264 dusoft Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:51:18 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35264 Jeffrey: Of course, I know about microformats and other things, but what I meant was that webstandards are going through the evolution now, not the revolution. So, basically, new things come and go, some stay. All this happens in small steps, not in jumps. So, it's easier to grasp the concepts behind these. Regarding the RoR: I am not complaining, it just felt strange. But I understand better now - I browsed older content (long forgotten by myself) and found bunch of articles about PHP, so you are correct. Jeffrey: Of course, I know about microformats and other things, but what I meant was that webstandards are going through the evolution now, not the revolution. So, basically, new things come and go, some stay. All this happens in small steps, not in jumps. So, it’s easier to grasp the concepts behind these.

Regarding the RoR: I am not complaining, it just felt strange. But I understand better now – I browsed older content (long forgotten by myself) and found bunch of articles about PHP, so you are correct.

]]> By: Jeffrey Zeldman http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35238 Jeffrey Zeldman Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:32:14 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35238 <blockquote> Strange that ALA has articles on server side technology framework such as RoR. I understand that this is probably a need since nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript, but writing about Ruby framework just feels inappropriate for ALA. </blockquote> dusoft: With roughly five-hundred mostly well-vetted articles going back ten years, <cite>ALA</cite> is in some ways a magazine of record for web designers. Yet strangely, we had no articles on Ruby on Rails, a platform that has had tremendous importance to web design, and is used by front-end and back-end developers alike. These two articles correct that lack. ALA articles aren't just read the week they're published; they continue to be found and studied for years by people at different levels of experience and expertise. Young or new web designers, who turn to our site as a matter of course, may look to us for information on Ruby on Rails—just as they previously successfully looked to us for information on other aspects of web design. When they do, these two fine articles will give them a basic overview of the how and why of the platform, and provide linkage to places where they can learn more. <blockquote> nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript </blockquote> You think not? Unobtrusive scripting, microformats, HTML 5, WCAG 2, WCAG Samurai, version targeting in IE8...

Strange that ALA has articles on server side technology framework such as RoR. I understand that this is probably a need since nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript, but writing about Ruby framework just feels inappropriate for ALA.

dusoft:

With roughly five-hundred mostly well-vetted articles going back ten years, ALA is in some ways a magazine of record for web designers. Yet strangely, we had no articles on Ruby on Rails, a platform that has had tremendous importance to web design, and is used by front-end and back-end developers alike. These two articles correct that lack.

ALA articles aren’t just read the week they’re published; they continue to be found and studied for years by people at different levels of experience and expertise. Young or new web designers, who turn to our site as a matter of course, may look to us for information on Ruby on Rails—just as they previously successfully looked to us for information on other aspects of web design. When they do, these two fine articles will give them a basic overview of the how and why of the platform, and provide linkage to places where they can learn more.

nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript

You think not? Unobtrusive scripting, microformats, HTML 5, WCAG 2, WCAG Samurai, version targeting in IE8…

]]> By: Erwin Heiser http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35215 Erwin Heiser Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:34:18 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35215 That link should be <a href="http://www.buildingwebapps.com/course" rel="nofollow">buildingwebapps.com/course</a> . That link should be buildingwebapps.com/course .

]]> By: dusoft http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35188 dusoft Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:22:24 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35188 Strange that ALA has articles on server side technology framework such as RoR. I understand that this is probably a need since nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript, but writing about Ruby framework just feels inappropriate for ALA. My two cents. Strange that ALA has articles on server side technology framework such as RoR. I understand that this is probably a need since nothing new really happens in webstandards/HTML/CSS/Javascript, but writing about Ruby framework just feels inappropriate for ALA. My two cents.

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35176 Chris Johnson Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:04:50 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35176 Great articles. They got me excited about developing future projects in RoR. However, a splash of cold water was thrown on the entire idea when I read about RoR miserable performance on shared environments. Great articles. They got me excited about developing future projects in RoR. However, a splash of cold water was thrown on the entire idea when I read about RoR miserable performance on shared environments.

]]> By: Jonnny http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35157 Jonnny Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:47:09 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35157 oh and before I forget, thank you also Dan Benjamin! oh and before I forget, thank you also Dan Benjamin!

]]> By: Jonnny http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35156 Jonnny Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:45:57 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35156 Thank you Michael! Two fantastic articles about something I have been curious about for quite sometime. It's a very good beginners guide which is something I have been looking for and I was very excited to see it pop up in my ALA feeds list on my Google homepage. So, I am going to set some quality time aside this week and get my hands dirty with ROR and discover this exciting concept. Also thanks to Jeffrey! ALA is still the best out there - it rocks big time!! :-) Thank you Michael! Two fantastic articles about something I have been curious about for quite sometime. It’s a very good beginners guide which is something I have been looking for and I was very excited to see it pop up in my ALA feeds list on my Google homepage.

So, I am going to set some quality time aside this week and get my hands dirty with ROR and discover this exciting concept.

Also thanks to Jeffrey! ALA is still the best out there – it rocks big time!! :-)

]]> By: Shane http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35152 Shane Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:41:08 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35152 Hi Michael - thanks for the information. I'm afraid there seems to be something wrong with the link (its href attribute is missing.) Any chance you could post again? Thanks. Hi Michael – thanks for the information. I’m afraid there seems to be something wrong with the link (its href attribute is missing.)

Any chance you could post again? Thanks.

]]> By: Michael Slater http://www.zeldman.com/2008/04/22/ala-257-the-why-and-how-of-ruby-on-rails/#comment-35149 Michael Slater Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:29:39 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/?p=341#comment-35149 I'm the author of the ALA article cited here, and would like to point people as well to the <a>free online course in Ruby on Rails</a> that I'm offering on my site. It starts with eight audio podcasts that explain the fundamental concepts, and then moves into a series of screencasts that show how to build a simple site with Rails, creating a basic content management system and other features. Check it out! I’m the author of the ALA article cited here, and would like to point people as well to the free online course in Ruby on Rails that I’m offering on my site. It starts with eight audio podcasts that explain the fundamental concepts, and then moves into a series of screencasts that show how to build a simple site with Rails, creating a basic content management system and other features. Check it out!

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