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		<title>By: Migrated To WordPress MU 2.7 &#124; Bui4Ever.com - Richard Bui &#124; Richard Bui</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-40737</link>
		<dc:creator>Migrated To WordPress MU 2.7 &#124; Bui4Ever.com - Richard Bui &#124; Richard Bui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] different. It was the &#8220;prettiest&#8221; to date, easier to use, designed in some part by Happy Cog Studios (more background here), but cumbersome to navigate when trying close comments, change the post [...]</description>
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		<title>By: oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-37977</link>
		<dc:creator>oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi guys, 

first i must say i like the design you did, period, looks a lot cleaner, and thanks for the work!
I had liked the write panel a little different though, like many others, i created pages instead of posts a few times. But  I guess that takes guetting used to ;-) and will work out for me later.
But the image creating&#039;s become a lot harder and I hope maybe for the next version you&#039;ll bring back the toolpanel from the previous one&#039;s and maybe eliminate a little scrolling with the categories on the right, or left.

cheers, 

oliver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys, </p>
<p>first i must say i like the design you did, period, looks a lot cleaner, and thanks for the work!<br />
I had liked the write panel a little different though, like many others, i created pages instead of posts a few times. But  I guess that takes guetting used to ;-) and will work out for me later.<br />
But the image creating&#8217;s become a lot harder and I hope maybe for the next version you&#8217;ll bring back the toolpanel from the previous one&#8217;s and maybe eliminate a little scrolling with the categories on the right, or left.</p>
<p>cheers, </p>
<p>oliver</p>
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		<title>By: David Esrati</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Esrati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve given 2.5 and now 2.5.1 some time now- and I can&#039;t honestly say I&#039;d want to go back to 2.3.x
However, a few interface quirks still exist- some mentioned above: 
the widgets loss of drag and drop, putting the tag field above the category field, etc- and nobody lamented the loss of the PressIt Bookmarklet- which is one of the most useful WordPress tools (I&#039;ve posted a tutorial on how to recreate it manually here: http://www.websitetology.com/?p=303 )
I too have made a page when I meant to make a post- due to the equal weight given both buttons on the dashboard, which to me, is not a good idea, since people should be making more posts than pages.
Another oddity is that the &quot;Design&quot; tab is on the left side- which seems very non-web 2.0. If design is separated from content- the content management tools would be on the left- and the design/management tools would be on the right. People shouldn&#039;t be playing with their theme near as often as their content.
The new Media Handler has WAY too many different options and has become too complicated IMHO. Why are there 4 options- pictures, video, audio and media- when video, audio and media are all the same basic action. Nevermind that the video tab doesn&#039;t actually insert a video like most video plugins- but just makes a link- not the action a user would need a separate tool from the one in the tinyMCE tool set.
While adding additional functionality is fine, when the interface gets more complicated it makes it less user friendly- which cuts down the likelihood that people will use it as often. It&#039;s one of the reasons we start so many business clients with WordPress instead of throwing them into Drupal etc.
The &quot;kitchen sink&quot; button is a nice way to hide functions for advanced users that need them.
The drafts function movement didn&#039;t make any sense either- and I&#039;m still not sure how the editors are notified of contributors posts- but, that&#039;s another set of comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve given 2.5 and now 2.5.1 some time now- and I can&#8217;t honestly say I&#8217;d want to go back to 2.3.x<br />
However, a few interface quirks still exist- some mentioned above:<br />
the widgets loss of drag and drop, putting the tag field above the category field, etc- and nobody lamented the loss of the PressIt Bookmarklet- which is one of the most useful WordPress tools (I&#8217;ve posted a tutorial on how to recreate it manually here: <a href="http://www.websitetology.com/?p=303">http://www.websitetology.com/?p=303</a> )<br />
I too have made a page when I meant to make a post- due to the equal weight given both buttons on the dashboard, which to me, is not a good idea, since people should be making more posts than pages.<br />
Another oddity is that the &#8220;Design&#8221; tab is on the left side- which seems very non-web 2.0. If design is separated from content- the content management tools would be on the left- and the design/management tools would be on the right. People shouldn&#8217;t be playing with their theme near as often as their content.<br />
The new Media Handler has WAY too many different options and has become too complicated IMHO. Why are there 4 options- pictures, video, audio and media- when video, audio and media are all the same basic action. Nevermind that the video tab doesn&#8217;t actually insert a video like most video plugins- but just makes a link- not the action a user would need a separate tool from the one in the tinyMCE tool set.<br />
While adding additional functionality is fine, when the interface gets more complicated it makes it less user friendly- which cuts down the likelihood that people will use it as often. It&#8217;s one of the reasons we start so many business clients with WordPress instead of throwing them into Drupal etc.<br />
The &#8220;kitchen sink&#8221; button is a nice way to hide functions for advanced users that need them.<br />
The drafts function movement didn&#8217;t make any sense either- and I&#8217;m still not sure how the editors are notified of contributors posts- but, that&#8217;s another set of comments.</p>
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		<title>By: optimiced &#124; bg &#187; WordPress 2.5: две интересни дискусии</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-37012</link>
		<dc:creator>optimiced &#124; bg &#187; WordPress 2.5: две интересни дискусии</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Втората е в блога на Джефри Зелдман: www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: frisk design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress gets it wrong&#8230; and goes deaf</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-36947</link>
		<dc:creator>frisk design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress gets it wrong&#8230; and goes deaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] look at this in detail in my next post, but frustrated by these problems, I posted over on Zeldman&#8217;s blog to exercise my frustration. For those not in the know, Jeffrey Zeldman is an internationally [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Wordpress 2.5 - new version released. Should I upgrade? @ NixonMcInnes: Social media goodness. Translated. Created. Delivered.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordpress 2.5 - new version released. Should I upgrade? @ NixonMcInnes: Social media goodness. Translated. Created. Delivered.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Root</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-36752</link>
		<dc:creator>Root</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey I have never had the temerity to comment on your blog before. And everything I have in my life that is good is due to you, to Eric and other folk of your ilk.

But this is just too much. WP 2.5 sucks. Everybody knows that. The long standing cache arrangements or the lack thereof, not to mention the voluminous mysql queries indicate that this is not serious software. The complete disconnect between the founding proprietor and anything to do with UI is another. The discord beween Open Source and the business demands of dot comming is the third. Please do not get me started on html5, xhtml or a whole lot of other stuff. You are in danger of forking the web standards community. 

But nevertheless - my very best wishes and good luck.
In my agency I buy your books in volume and issue them to our trainees :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey I have never had the temerity to comment on your blog before. And everything I have in my life that is good is due to you, to Eric and other folk of your ilk.</p>
<p>But this is just too much. WP 2.5 sucks. Everybody knows that. The long standing cache arrangements or the lack thereof, not to mention the voluminous mysql queries indicate that this is not serious software. The complete disconnect between the founding proprietor and anything to do with UI is another. The discord beween Open Source and the business demands of dot comming is the third. Please do not get me started on html5, xhtml or a whole lot of other stuff. You are in danger of forking the web standards community. </p>
<p>But nevertheless &#8211; my very best wishes and good luck.<br />
In my agency I buy your books in volume and issue them to our trainees :)</p>
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		<title>By: Davor</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-36602</link>
		<dc:creator>Davor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress rulz</description>
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		<title>By: WordPress &#8250; Support &#187; WP 2.5 Write Panel Usability</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-36575</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress &#8250; Support &#187; WP 2.5 Write Panel Usability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cotton Rohrscheib</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35369</link>
		<dc:creator>Cotton Rohrscheib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry just getting around to saying thanks, but great job on WP2.5!</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35230</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michiel, I have thought about the way the most common user is using WordPress, and I&#039;d argue that having the categories above the fold a) encourages them to make use of the feature, b) doesn&#039;t confuse them, and c) provides a huge benefit to those of us who do use them.

Moving the categories (and tags, but as Kris points out, they&#039;re optional) below the fold was a staggeringly enormous mistake, so much so that it overshadows all the great things about the UI changes in 2.5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michiel, I have thought about the way the most common user is using WordPress, and I&#8217;d argue that having the categories above the fold a) encourages them to make use of the feature, b) doesn&#8217;t confuse them, and c) provides a huge benefit to those of us who do use them.</p>
<p>Moving the categories (and tags, but as Kris points out, they&#8217;re optional) below the fold was a staggeringly enormous mistake, so much so that it overshadows all the great things about the UI changes in 2.5.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35189</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michiel: I&#039;ve thought *very* hard about the issue of &#039;Who is 2.5 targeted at?&#039; and I agree completely that it&#039;s not the power users. 

The RC1 press release said of the Write screen &quot;It displays the most common fields in a way that makes posting incredibly easy. Additional options are hidden away until you need them. The new Write screen anticipates the natural flow of the way you write&quot;.

Maybe this is true for the new, regular, normal users, whatever you want to call them. But it isn&#039;t true about existing, long-term users, who&#039;s flow has now been disrupted. How is it a good idea to hide things below the fold, that were previously easily findable in the sidebar? For me, the new Write screen is &lt;em&gt;slower&lt;/em&gt; to use than its forebear.

On the wp-mailing list, several people expressed concern about the new Write screen during development and expressed a desire to either return to the earlier layout or try something different. Matt Mullenweg responded &quot;...these ideas are not necessarily good or bad, but they&#039;re not backed up by research or usability testing, which the current choices are.&quot;

The results of usability testing are only as good as what you put in: the users you analyse and what you put in front of them. Dismissing valid concerns because they&#039;re not backed up by usability testing means nothing if the testing didn&#039;t test the right people -- I believe that the process may have been flawed because HappyCog didn&#039;t have a fully &lt;em&gt;representative&lt;/em&gt; group of users. There&#039;s not enough info on the web to be sure of this, so if anyone from HappyCog can give an insight here, I would very much appreciate that, as I&#039;m having a really hard time understanding how they came to some of their revised IA decisions.

If you take a look at WP.com and the responses from people using the free hosted solution, you&#039;ll see that many of them have &lt;em&gt;also&lt;/em&gt; complained about the arrangement of the Write screen. I emailed Matt Mullenweg asking about that issue, and he said &quot;We will be trying a few different approaches to things like categories that people seem to be having the most trouble with.&quot; 

Doesn&#039;t that rather suggest something is wrong? A six month dev process that created more Write page issues for both novice and experienced users and that the lead developer now says will be looked at again. 

I&#039;m sorry to be so critical about this, but it&#039;s so &lt;em&gt;frustrating&lt;/em&gt;. WP is a good product, but changes in 2.5 have seriously alienated many WP users -- you only need to trawl through Technorati to get some understanding of the scale of the problem, or have a look at the Wordpress Feedback forum.

However, the biggest issue is the lack of public commentary on these criticisms. For a company that prides itself on creating software that gives people a voice, it’s ironic and a bit sad that Wordpress seem to be more interested in hiding and defending themselves than being open and listening to those voices. Follow these threads to see what I mean:

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/164414
http://wordpress.org/support/topic/169595

There&#039;s a lot of nice new stuff in 2.5, but it almost doesn&#039;t matter because the core function -- easily creating blog posts -- is now worse. And that&#039;s a shame.

I know it&#039;s not possible to keep all of the people happy all of the time, but I fear for Wordpress&#039;s future if it continues along the &#039;dumbing down for the masses&#039; route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michiel: I&#8217;ve thought *very* hard about the issue of &#8216;Who is 2.5 targeted at?&#8217; and I agree completely that it&#8217;s not the power users. </p>
<p>The RC1 press release said of the Write screen &#8220;It displays the most common fields in a way that makes posting incredibly easy. Additional options are hidden away until you need them. The new Write screen anticipates the natural flow of the way you write&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe this is true for the new, regular, normal users, whatever you want to call them. But it isn&#8217;t true about existing, long-term users, who&#8217;s flow has now been disrupted. How is it a good idea to hide things below the fold, that were previously easily findable in the sidebar? For me, the new Write screen is <em>slower</em> to use than its forebear.</p>
<p>On the wp-mailing list, several people expressed concern about the new Write screen during development and expressed a desire to either return to the earlier layout or try something different. Matt Mullenweg responded &#8220;&#8230;these ideas are not necessarily good or bad, but they&#8217;re not backed up by research or usability testing, which the current choices are.&#8221;</p>
<p>The results of usability testing are only as good as what you put in: the users you analyse and what you put in front of them. Dismissing valid concerns because they&#8217;re not backed up by usability testing means nothing if the testing didn&#8217;t test the right people &#8212; I believe that the process may have been flawed because HappyCog didn&#8217;t have a fully <em>representative</em> group of users. There&#8217;s not enough info on the web to be sure of this, so if anyone from HappyCog can give an insight here, I would very much appreciate that, as I&#8217;m having a really hard time understanding how they came to some of their revised IA decisions.</p>
<p>If you take a look at WP.com and the responses from people using the free hosted solution, you&#8217;ll see that many of them have <em>also</em> complained about the arrangement of the Write screen. I emailed Matt Mullenweg asking about that issue, and he said &#8220;We will be trying a few different approaches to things like categories that people seem to be having the most trouble with.&#8221; </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that rather suggest something is wrong? A six month dev process that created more Write page issues for both novice and experienced users and that the lead developer now says will be looked at again. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to be so critical about this, but it&#8217;s so <em>frustrating</em>. WP is a good product, but changes in 2.5 have seriously alienated many WP users &#8212; you only need to trawl through Technorati to get some understanding of the scale of the problem, or have a look at the WordPress Feedback forum.</p>
<p>However, the biggest issue is the lack of public commentary on these criticisms. For a company that prides itself on creating software that gives people a voice, it’s ironic and a bit sad that WordPress seem to be more interested in hiding and defending themselves than being open and listening to those voices. Follow these threads to see what I mean:</p>
<p><a href="http://wordpress.org/support/topic/164414">http://wordpress.org/support/topic/164414</a><br />
<a href="http://wordpress.org/support/topic/169595">http://wordpress.org/support/topic/169595</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of nice new stuff in 2.5, but it almost doesn&#8217;t matter because the core function &#8212; easily creating blog posts &#8212; is now worse. And that&#8217;s a shame.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not possible to keep all of the people happy all of the time, but I fear for WordPress&#8217;s future if it continues along the &#8216;dumbing down for the masses&#8217; route.</p>
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		<title>By: Michiel van der Blonk</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35174</link>
		<dc:creator>Michiel van der Blonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all who feel like WP 2.5 usability has degraded: I think you haven&#039;t thought about how JZ has analyzed WordPress. It&#039;s about the most common user base: the target audience is most likely people with a free blog, that are very non-technical. They may understand how to add a tag, but organizing stuff is for people who are organized. Most people can&#039;t handle folders, and just search for documents, and put them all in one place.
Also, if you&#039;re missing this and that button, it&#039;s probably because the redesign is now more in line with what a regular user expects, not what &#039;has always been there&#039;. 
And, JZ wasn&#039;t hired to oversee implementation to make sure it adhered to web standards.
Of course, we can expect &#039;tech savvy&#039; WordPress admin style sheets soon, that will alleviate some problems.
I think Jeffrey did a great job, and hope I am correct throwing in these comments. JZ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all who feel like WP 2.5 usability has degraded: I think you haven&#8217;t thought about how JZ has analyzed WordPress. It&#8217;s about the most common user base: the target audience is most likely people with a free blog, that are very non-technical. They may understand how to add a tag, but organizing stuff is for people who are organized. Most people can&#8217;t handle folders, and just search for documents, and put them all in one place.<br />
Also, if you&#8217;re missing this and that button, it&#8217;s probably because the redesign is now more in line with what a regular user expects, not what &#8216;has always been there&#8217;.<br />
And, JZ wasn&#8217;t hired to oversee implementation to make sure it adhered to web standards.<br />
Of course, we can expect &#8216;tech savvy&#8217; WordPress admin style sheets soon, that will alleviate some problems.<br />
I think Jeffrey did a great job, and hope I am correct throwing in these comments. JZ?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35116</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to add my voice to those who are dissatisfied with the new Write Post interface. Prior to WordPress 2.5, it was possible for me to write and publish an entire post without scrolling down at all; everything that I (and WordPress) needed for most posts was above the fold. 

Now, not only are Categories below the fold, they&#039;re below Tags (which are, unlike Categories, optional). I don&#039;t know how many Categories the average WordPress blogger uses, but I&#039;ve got 18 of them, and the chances are pretty decent that my default (regardless of what I set it to) isn&#039;t going to be appropriate for any given post. Having the list in the sidebar (which now contains nothing but whitespace) was simple and intuitive; moving the list below an optional meta-data element is counter-intuitive and complicates 90% of posts I write.

I&#039;m also disappointed with the loss of separate &quot;Save&quot; and &quot;Save and Continue Editing&quot; buttons, not to mention having the &quot;Delete&quot; button &lt;em&gt;right next to&lt;/em the &quot;Save&quot; button. I understand that &quot;Save&quot; now functions as the old &quot;Save and Continue Editing&quot; button did, but it makes doing quick edits of published posts a multi-click affair, where previously all I had to do was click &quot;Save&quot; and I was returned to the screen from whence I came.

I must say that I was also dismayed at the new Widget management interface. I used to keep multiple text widgets that I would rotate in and out of my sidebar, knowing that any text widget not currently in use could be dropped into place very quickly, without having to re-enter its contents. Not so in WordPress 2.5; if I remove a text widget, there&#039;s no way (that I can determine) of retrieving or reusing its contents.

I appreciate that a lot of effort went into this redesign, but you&#039;ve introduced some very significant usability issues, and they&#039;re egregious enough that I&#039;ve not only applied a different admin template (&lt;a href=&quot;http://deanjrobinson.com/projects/fluency-admin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fluency&lt;/a&gt;) but hacked the core WordPress files to make the Write Post screen easier to use.

And just as an aside, it&#039;s all well and good to prove to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-34651&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AG&lt;/a&gt; that you can edit comments, but it would have been well and good and &lt;em&gt;truly helpful&lt;/em&gt; to let him or her know that you can do so by clicking on the commentor&#039;s name in the individual comment on the Manage Comments screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to add my voice to those who are dissatisfied with the new Write Post interface. Prior to WordPress 2.5, it was possible for me to write and publish an entire post without scrolling down at all; everything that I (and WordPress) needed for most posts was above the fold. </p>
<p>Now, not only are Categories below the fold, they&#8217;re below Tags (which are, unlike Categories, optional). I don&#8217;t know how many Categories the average WordPress blogger uses, but I&#8217;ve got 18 of them, and the chances are pretty decent that my default (regardless of what I set it to) isn&#8217;t going to be appropriate for any given post. Having the list in the sidebar (which now contains nothing but whitespace) was simple and intuitive; moving the list below an optional meta-data element is counter-intuitive and complicates 90% of posts I write.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also disappointed with the loss of separate &#8220;Save&#8221; and &#8220;Save and Continue Editing&#8221; buttons, not to mention having the &#8220;Delete&#8221; button <em>right next to&lt;/em the &#8220;Save&#8221; button. I understand that &#8220;Save&#8221; now functions as the old &#8220;Save and Continue Editing&#8221; button did, but it makes doing quick edits of published posts a multi-click affair, where previously all I had to do was click &#8220;Save&#8221; and I was returned to the screen from whence I came.</p>
<p>I must say that I was also dismayed at the new Widget management interface. I used to keep multiple text widgets that I would rotate in and out of my sidebar, knowing that any text widget not currently in use could be dropped into place very quickly, without having to re-enter its contents. Not so in WordPress 2.5; if I remove a text widget, there&#8217;s no way (that I can determine) of retrieving or reusing its contents.</p>
<p>I appreciate that a lot of effort went into this redesign, but you&#8217;ve introduced some very significant usability issues, and they&#8217;re egregious enough that I&#8217;ve not only applied a different admin template (<a href="http://deanjrobinson.com/projects/fluency-admin/" rel="nofollow">Fluency</a>) but hacked the core WordPress files to make the Write Post screen easier to use.</p>
<p>And just as an aside, it&#8217;s all well and good to prove to <a href="http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-34651" rel="nofollow">AG</a> that you can edit comments, but it would have been well and good and </em><em>truly helpful</em> to let him or her know that you can do so by clicking on the commentor&#8217;s name in the individual comment on the Manage Comments screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Nickless</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2008/03/29/wordpress-25-unleashed/#comment-35097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Nickless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first updated to Wordpress 2.5 I was a little uncertain whether I liked it or not. I suppose I was so used to having everything on one toolbar and easy to access. However it didn&#039;t take me long to discover all the great features that have been added in this upgrade and it definitely has my seal of approval!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first updated to WordPress 2.5 I was a little uncertain whether I liked it or not. I suppose I was so used to having everything on one toolbar and easy to access. However it didn&#8217;t take me long to discover all the great features that have been added in this upgrade and it definitely has my seal of approval!</p>
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