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	<title>Comments on: Re: CSS Unworking Group</title>
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		<title>By: Adactio: Journal&#8212;Year zero</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-51427</link>
		<dc:creator>Adactio: Journal&#8212;Year zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] as Zeldman points out, this connection is tenuous at [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] as Zeldman points out, this connection is tenuous at [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Tell the CSS WG what you want from CSS3 - The Web Standards Project</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-48533</link>
		<dc:creator>Tell the CSS WG what you want from CSS3 - The Web Standards Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] hasn&#8217;t already been said about the constitution of the CSS working group, please comment on those [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] hasn&#8217;t already been said about the constitution of the CSS working group, please comment on those [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: filmy online</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-47626</link>
		<dc:creator>filmy online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I was just thinking how civil this whole thing has been compared to some debates we have in the industry. I haven’t seen much, if any, name-calling at all.”

I think I was tipped over by a few comments on Andy’s site and some other statements that alude to the standards movement itself as being the problem. You are right this has been pretty civil all round. Sometimes childish, but civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I was just thinking how civil this whole thing has been compared to some debates we have in the industry. I haven’t seen much, if any, name-calling at all.”</p>
<p>I think I was tipped over by a few comments on Andy’s site and some other statements that alude to the standards movement itself as being the problem. You are right this has been pretty civil all round. Sometimes childish, but civil.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePickards &#187; Opera: is the fat lady singing for the CSS group?</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-43577</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePickards &#187; Opera: is the fat lady singing for the CSS group?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Zeldman certainly seems to think so, with his reply to Andy indicating that he doesn&#8217;t quite see the connection between Opera&#8217;s lawsuit and the [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Zeldman certainly seems to think so, with his reply to Andy indicating that he doesn&#8217;t quite see the connection between Opera&#8217;s lawsuit and the [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Uslugi internetowe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-42397</link>
		<dc:creator>Uslugi internetowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they don&#039;t care because Search Engines are not affected by W3C standards, but good content should always be connected with proper display, which is provided by keeping standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they don&#8217;t care because Search Engines are not affected by W3C standards, but good content should always be connected with proper display, which is provided by keeping standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-40910</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately most people don&#039;t care &#039;bout w3c etc. things. There is a theory which tells that this standard hasn&#039;t got influence on for example place in search scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately most people don&#8217;t care &#8217;bout w3c etc. things. There is a theory which tells that this standard hasn&#8217;t got influence on for example place in search scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Fink</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-40742</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mp3 Teledyski:
&quot;They dont care about standards, they only care about making money and pushing their products and people cave in to their stranglehold.&quot;
You couldn&#039;t be more wrong. Take a look at IE8 and the postings on the IE blog for the past six months. There is great awareness of standards and they have been implemented. I doubt if the facts will change your mind, but it needs to be stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mp3 Teledyski:<br />
&#8220;They dont care about standards, they only care about making money and pushing their products and people cave in to their stranglehold.&#8221;<br />
You couldn&#8217;t be more wrong. Take a look at IE8 and the postings on the IE blog for the past six months. There is great awareness of standards and they have been implemented. I doubt if the facts will change your mind, but it needs to be stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mp3 Teledyski</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-40736</link>
		<dc:creator>Mp3 Teledyski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop giving into Microsoft’s monopoly. Let Opera take them to court, if it screws up web dev for 5yrs so be it. I’m tired of MS using their OS and Browser to dominate the web. IE8 and MS’s future site will probably require silverlight to run, forcing its adoptance on more people. They dont care about standards, they only care about making money and pushing their products and people cave in to their stranglehold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop giving into Microsoft’s monopoly. Let Opera take them to court, if it screws up web dev for 5yrs so be it. I’m tired of MS using their OS and Browser to dominate the web. IE8 and MS’s future site will probably require silverlight to run, forcing its adoptance on more people. They dont care about standards, they only care about making money and pushing their products and people cave in to their stranglehold.</p>
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		<title>By: Szyby samochodowe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-38586</link>
		<dc:creator>Szyby samochodowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the programmers world one need standards because applications are created in many independent groups. 
Thanks:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the programmers world one need standards because applications are created in many independent groups.<br />
Thanks:)</p>
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		<title>By: Pod Sosnami</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-38558</link>
		<dc:creator>Pod Sosnami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article - thanks. I really enjoyed reading all of your articles. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article &#8211; thanks. I really enjoyed reading all of your articles. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Sklep Calivita</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-38511</link>
		<dc:creator>Sklep Calivita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very accurate observations
Web Standards needs a passionate leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very accurate observations<br />
Web Standards needs a passionate leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: konto bankowe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-38430</link>
		<dc:creator>konto bankowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.Thanks for the great post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.Thanks for the great post :)</p>
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		<title>By: Webdesign Hamburg</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-38422</link>
		<dc:creator>Webdesign Hamburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the IE6 has a popularity under 5%, it not very important, what the others are about!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the IE6 has a popularity under 5%, it not very important, what the others are about!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-37807</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_How_ they need changing is what needs to be debated, not _if_ they need changing.
This is straight to the point talk, instead of just talking the obvious. You see a problem, you fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_How_ they need changing is what needs to be debated, not _if_ they need changing.<br />
This is straight to the point talk, instead of just talking the obvious. You see a problem, you fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: web design company</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/12/15/re-css-unworking-group/#comment-37569</link>
		<dc:creator>web design company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great post ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post ;D</p>
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