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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Considered Harmless</title>
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		<title>By: frivolous motion: 09.2007</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-48932</link>
		<dc:creator>frivolous motion: 09.2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Facebook Considered Harmless [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Longboard: Internet Archives</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-48913</link>
		<dc:creator>Longboard: Internet Archives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Facebook considered harmless.   But that doesn&#039;t mean you should accept candy from it. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Facebook considered harmless.   But that doesn&#39;t mean you should accept candy from it. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: H. Cihan Salim - Günce&#8230; Blog&#8230; &#124; Facebook Çılgınlığı: İnternet&#8217;in Geleceği Değil, Günümüz Şartlarında Bir Uygulama</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-39275</link>
		<dc:creator>H. Cihan Salim - Günce&#8230; Blog&#8230; &#124; Facebook Çılgınlığı: İnternet&#8217;in Geleceği Değil, Günümüz Şartlarında Bir Uygulama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] çok daha fazlasını yaşamış, İnternet yayıncılığını yönlendirmiş Jeffrey Zeldman&#8217;ın Facebook&#8217;a üye olmasıyla ilgili yazısında yazdıklarıma fazlasıyla benzer tecrübelerini okuduktan sonra ben de bu gelişmelerin içinde [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] çok daha fazlasını yaşamış, İnternet yayıncılığını yönlendirmiş Jeffrey Zeldman&#8217;ın Facebook&#8217;a üye olmasıyla ilgili yazısında yazdıklarıma fazlasıyla benzer tecrübelerini okuduktan sonra ben de bu gelişmelerin içinde [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-39205</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I had never read this before and was thinking of the phrase &quot;Facebook Considered Harmless&quot;, Googled &quot;Considered Harmless&quot; and found this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I had never read this before and was thinking of the phrase &#8220;Facebook Considered Harmless&#8221;, Googled &#8220;Considered Harmless&#8221; and found this!</p>
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		<title>By: אסכולת הכורסא &#187; עולם הפוך</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-39003</link>
		<dc:creator>אסכולת הכורסא &#187; עולם הפוך</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] הרשתות החברתיות פוגעות בפופולאריות של אתרי פורנו. זו הוכחה מספרית למה שאנחנו יודעים כבר שנה&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] הרשתות החברתיות פוגעות בפופולאריות של אתרי פורנו. זו הוכחה מספרית למה שאנחנו יודעים כבר שנה&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Approved</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-37494</link>
		<dc:creator>Approved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Facebook Considered Harmless Jeffrey writes a must read about Facebook. The end conclusion is pricel... [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Facebook Considered Harmless Jeffrey writes a must read about Facebook. The end conclusion is pricel&#8230; [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Is Facebook a Waste of Time? - The Unofficial Facebook Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-37164</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Facebook a Waste of Time? - The Unofficial Facebook Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Zeldman seems to think so. He thinks that Facebook is just another way for blowing &#8220;off work you should be [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Zeldman seems to think so. He thinks that Facebook is just another way for blowing &#8220;off work you should be [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Daring Fireball Linked List: September 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-36667</link>
		<dc:creator>Daring Fireball Linked List: September 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 13:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Jeffrey Zeldman: &#8216;Facebook Considered&#160;Harmless&#8217;&#160;&#9733; [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Jeffrey Zeldman: &#8216;Facebook Considered&#160;Harmless&#8217;&nbsp;&#9733; [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Zaproszenia ślubne kartki świąteczne</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-34559</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaproszenia ślubne kartki świąteczne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don&#039;t recommend Facebook, but well just check it by yourself ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t recommend Facebook, but well just check it by yourself ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-23801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve joined Facebook but I rarely check it. Occasionally I get an add from someone vaguely familiar in some cthonic past life. I use Myspace for band promotion, but even that is getting really tired at times. These socail network things are a drag man. And that&#039;s why I have a twitter account and a blog too. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve joined Facebook but I rarely check it. Occasionally I get an add from someone vaguely familiar in some cthonic past life. I use Myspace for band promotion, but even that is getting really tired at times. These socail network things are a drag man. And that&#8217;s why I have a twitter account and a blog too. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Guertin</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-22841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Guertin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I joined for client reasons, but it sucked me in as well.  It&#039;s _mostly_ harmless .. except for all the application spam that&#039;s started to creep up.  The latest revelation app designers (if you can call them that!) for facebook have figured out is how to violate the user&#039;s privacy and get away with it.  Several unnamed apps are now spamming user who don&#039;t want their apps installed (i.e. they have been invited but ignored the requests) through the users that invited them.  I&#039;m not getting all kinds of unwanted emails from facebook telling me that such-and-such has posted on my Funwall ... except .. I don&#039;t have a Funwall nor do I want one.  Contacting the developers didn&#039;t help so I started a group to bring some more attention to it.

Facebook is a great experiment to watch for us web application designers / interface designers.  They broke a lot of the Web 2.0 &quot;rules&quot; ... they don&#039;t say beta, they are not shiny/plastic/reflective, they are mostly &quot;flat&quot; html, but ... they have millions of users and are growing at an esponential rate.  I use them as an example to a lot of clients that demand bubbly, shiny, reflective sites that are more images than code as proof that you don&#039;t need to waste your end user&#039;s bandwidth on a ton of un-needed images in order to gain market share.  You need a viable product.

P.S. When will clients figure out that they are about 2 years too late to start building the next &quot;big&quot; social network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I joined for client reasons, but it sucked me in as well.  It&#8217;s _mostly_ harmless .. except for all the application spam that&#8217;s started to creep up.  The latest revelation app designers (if you can call them that!) for facebook have figured out is how to violate the user&#8217;s privacy and get away with it.  Several unnamed apps are now spamming user who don&#8217;t want their apps installed (i.e. they have been invited but ignored the requests) through the users that invited them.  I&#8217;m not getting all kinds of unwanted emails from facebook telling me that such-and-such has posted on my Funwall &#8230; except .. I don&#8217;t have a Funwall nor do I want one.  Contacting the developers didn&#8217;t help so I started a group to bring some more attention to it.</p>
<p>Facebook is a great experiment to watch for us web application designers / interface designers.  They broke a lot of the Web 2.0 &#8220;rules&#8221; &#8230; they don&#8217;t say beta, they are not shiny/plastic/reflective, they are mostly &#8220;flat&#8221; html, but &#8230; they have millions of users and are growing at an esponential rate.  I use them as an example to a lot of clients that demand bubbly, shiny, reflective sites that are more images than code as proof that you don&#8217;t need to waste your end user&#8217;s bandwidth on a ton of un-needed images in order to gain market share.  You need a viable product.</p>
<p>P.S. When will clients figure out that they are about 2 years too late to start building the next &#8220;big&#8221; social network.</p>
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		<title>By: Holmes</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-22338</link>
		<dc:creator>Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly how much did facebook pay you to write this?   This is the worst type of avertising there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly how much did facebook pay you to write this?   This is the worst type of avertising there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Smythe</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-21520</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masturbation. That&#039;s what original facebooks in college were primarily used for and its why people spend time on the digital equivalents now. Flirting. Masturbation. Dating. You guys don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;? There&#039;s nothing to get. You check out some hot chicks. Or hot dudes. The site is loaded with them...and they actually give you information about themselves which makes fantasizing about them (or actually connecting with them) that much better.  Pretty simple if you ask me.  Almost like a free version of match.com except not everyone is a loser.  On facebook, girls can be hot and hoochy and get lots of attention. Guys can tell the world how cool they are.  People can see how&#039;s got more successful or better looking friends than the next person. Pretty good model.  Stick to the basics. Human nature baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masturbation. That&#8217;s what original facebooks in college were primarily used for and its why people spend time on the digital equivalents now. Flirting. Masturbation. Dating. You guys don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;? There&#8217;s nothing to get. You check out some hot chicks. Or hot dudes. The site is loaded with them&#8230;and they actually give you information about themselves which makes fantasizing about them (or actually connecting with them) that much better.  Pretty simple if you ask me.  Almost like a free version of match.com except not everyone is a loser.  On facebook, girls can be hot and hoochy and get lots of attention. Guys can tell the world how cool they are.  People can see how&#8217;s got more successful or better looking friends than the next person. Pretty good model.  Stick to the basics. Human nature baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Pennycuff</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-21035</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Pennycuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the most interesting social media thingie i&#039;ve found in the past couple of years is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stumbleupon.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stumble upon&lt;/a&gt;.  you can consider this an official invitation, although no version currently exists for your default browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the most interesting social media thingie i&#8217;ve found in the past couple of years is <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/" rel="nofollow">stumble upon</a>.  you can consider this an official invitation, although no version currently exists for your default browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Berriman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/09/18/facebook-considered-harmless/#comment-20830</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Berriman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave into Facebook only 2 days ago.  I&#039;m finding it horribly addictive, but mostly pointless. Now I&#039;ve friended everyone in the universe I&#039;ve met and add all the apps of the sites that I DO actually use, I&#039;m not entirely sure what I&#039;m meant to do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave into Facebook only 2 days ago.  I&#8217;m finding it horribly addictive, but mostly pointless. Now I&#8217;ve friended everyone in the universe I&#8217;ve met and add all the apps of the sites that I DO actually use, I&#8217;m not entirely sure what I&#8217;m meant to do now.</p>
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