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	<title>Comments on: Web type, iPhone content</title>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/28/ala-244-hakon-chockenberry/#comment-34860</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disregarding the iPhone for a moment (I don&#039;t own one, don&#039;t plan on owning one!), but the article about the 20 artists was brilliant. The work by Will Murai is simply beautiful and really stood out for me. Thanks for sharing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disregarding the iPhone for a moment (I don&#8217;t own one, don&#8217;t plan on owning one!), but the article about the 20 artists was brilliant. The work by Will Murai is simply beautiful and really stood out for me. Thanks for sharing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/28/ala-244-hakon-chockenberry/#comment-33249</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the big deal about the new iPhone to be fair. The advert tells you that you can talk to a friend, get cinema times and book the tickets, with no hassle... I live with my friend so I just shout downstairs to her, get in the car and before you know it we&#039;re in the cinema - no cost, no hassle.

Does that prove that the iPhone is obsolete?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the big deal about the new iPhone to be fair. The advert tells you that you can talk to a friend, get cinema times and book the tickets, with no hassle&#8230; I live with my friend so I just shout downstairs to her, get in the car and before you know it we&#8217;re in the cinema &#8211; no cost, no hassle.</p>
<p>Does that prove that the iPhone is obsolete?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great things about the iPhone, even though I haven&#039;t bought one and probably never will, is that it&#039;s really giving the mobile web the kick in the butt it needed. It&#039;s been how many years now, and reading the web (the &lt;em&gt;proper&lt;/em&gt; world wide web, not some TelCo &quot;walled garden&quot;) on your phone still hasn&#039;t taken off? 

As long as people aren&#039;t building iPhone-specific apps to the extent that it excludes other devices, the iPhone could be great for the web, because developers and companies finally have a reason to seriously think about mobile web apps. 

That might be the best thing about the iPhone - that it forces companies to consider the handheld audience. Even rubes like me with a WinMo 5 PDA can get behind that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great things about the iPhone, even though I haven&#8217;t bought one and probably never will, is that it&#8217;s really giving the mobile web the kick in the butt it needed. It&#8217;s been how many years now, and reading the web (the <em>proper</em> world wide web, not some TelCo &#8220;walled garden&#8221;) on your phone still hasn&#8217;t taken off? </p>
<p>As long as people aren&#8217;t building iPhone-specific apps to the extent that it excludes other devices, the iPhone could be great for the web, because developers and companies finally have a reason to seriously think about mobile web apps. </p>
<p>That might be the best thing about the iPhone &#8211; that it forces companies to consider the handheld audience. Even rubes like me with a WinMo 5 PDA can get behind that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/28/ala-244-hakon-chockenberry/#comment-19711</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An iPhone article on ALA, Cameron Moll&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://mobilewebbook.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new book&lt;/a&gt; on mobile web is released, and my boss gets a new phone with 3G all within 48 hours of each other. The stars are none-too-subtle when they align.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An iPhone article on ALA, Cameron Moll&#8217;s <a href="http://mobilewebbook.com/" rel="nofollow">new book</a> on mobile web is released, and my boss gets a new phone with 3G all within 48 hours of each other. The stars are none-too-subtle when they align.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Croft</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/28/ala-244-hakon-chockenberry/#comment-19666</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Croft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindaugas: If you read the article, it clearly states:

&quot;One final thing to keep in mind when you start this kind of development: make it an addition to your existing site. Don’t force an iPhone to use this special section of your site—it’s an enhancement, not a jail. Likewise, if a user without an iPhone wants to look at this part of your site, don’t block them with some “for iPhone only” nonsense. Remember that the web always works best when it’s open and developers don’t try to outsmart their visitors.&quot;

No one &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; to design specifically for iPhone. No one is advocating iPhone-only sites or apps. No one is suggesting you ignore other devices. People are only suggesting you create iPhone-optimized alternate versions of your site, in the case that you have a large number of iPhone users in your audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindaugas: If you read the article, it clearly states:</p>
<p>&#8220;One final thing to keep in mind when you start this kind of development: make it an addition to your existing site. Don’t force an iPhone to use this special section of your site—it’s an enhancement, not a jail. Likewise, if a user without an iPhone wants to look at this part of your site, don’t block them with some “for iPhone only” nonsense. Remember that the web always works best when it’s open and developers don’t try to outsmart their visitors.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one <em>has</em> to design specifically for iPhone. No one is advocating iPhone-only sites or apps. No one is suggesting you ignore other devices. People are only suggesting you create iPhone-optimized alternate versions of your site, in the case that you have a large number of iPhone users in your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindaugas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindaugas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not if this is a good idea to design for any specific device. Earlier, when fighting for web standards designers were condemning IE for they had to design specifically for this browser and were too much dependent from Microsoft. Now they hailing iphone and kind of voluntary putting chains on themselves. And it seems that all this because of the massive irrational hype about this specific device. What I&#039;m afraid of is that Apple product users will become too dependent on this company and unable to rationally evaluate its products (kind of fanatics?) like many people still dependent on MS (however rather haters - not fanatics). Do you think this is possible? I mean will we have Apple-Jugend? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not if this is a good idea to design for any specific device. Earlier, when fighting for web standards designers were condemning IE for they had to design specifically for this browser and were too much dependent from Microsoft. Now they hailing iphone and kind of voluntary putting chains on themselves. And it seems that all this because of the massive irrational hype about this specific device. What I&#8217;m afraid of is that Apple product users will become too dependent on this company and unable to rationally evaluate its products (kind of fanatics?) like many people still dependent on MS (however rather haters &#8211; not fanatics). Do you think this is possible? I mean will we have Apple-Jugend? :)</p>
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