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		<title>By: MySpace Design</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-40269</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This concept really excites me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This concept really excites me!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-34462</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion it&#039;s hard to implement all these functionalities. Maybe there are no technological barriers but you understimate that each social network prefer mantain ownership of some data. I prefer to see the problem as the optimal trade-off between sharing and sustainability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion it&#8217;s hard to implement all these functionalities. Maybe there are no technological barriers but you understimate that each social network prefer mantain ownership of some data. I prefer to see the problem as the optimal trade-off between sharing and sustainability.</p>
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		<title>By: social network web designer</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-32421</link>
		<dc:creator>social network web designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad someone is tackling this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad someone is tackling this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: XYZ</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18618</link>
		<dc:creator>XYZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no reason why the (major) social networking sites would want to implement this. It would only make it easier for people to abandon their sites for the latest one.

While that would be great for the users, you have to come up with a system that Facebook or MySpace would actually benefit from, or it won&#039;t be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason why the (major) social networking sites would want to implement this. It would only make it easier for people to abandon their sites for the latest one.</p>
<p>While that would be great for the users, you have to come up with a system that Facebook or MySpace would actually benefit from, or it won&#8217;t be useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjmin Melançon</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18482</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjmin Melançon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To share friends between social networks, without inviting spam, I think there needs to be a unique identifier for people other than an e-mail address.  (E-mail isn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;a&lt;/em&gt; unique identifier in any case, but that&#039;s another problem .)

Even a one-way cryptographic hash on e-mail addresses would let the user identify his or her friends by one or more encrypted e-mail addresses each.  The social network he or she is transfering to could have a reasonable shot at saying &quot;yup, that person is here.  You are now friends/mortal enemies/whatever you were before.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To share friends between social networks, without inviting spam, I think there needs to be a unique identifier for people other than an e-mail address.  (E-mail isn&#8217;t <em>a</em> unique identifier in any case, but that&#8217;s another problem .)</p>
<p>Even a one-way cryptographic hash on e-mail addresses would let the user identify his or her friends by one or more encrypted e-mail addresses each.  The social network he or she is transfering to could have a reasonable shot at saying &#8220;yup, that person is here.  You are now friends/mortal enemies/whatever you were before.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Craig Jallits</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18353</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Craig Jallits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it incredible that I fill in the same information in every single  I find on the Web. Whether it is a social network or signing up for Tech Support at some company to joining a discussion list/forum.

While some browsers offer an auto fill option natively or through plug-ins, I still cannot believe that no site (at least one I have found) has yet to allow an import of the users personal hCard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it incredible that I fill in the same information in every single  I find on the Web. Whether it is a social network or signing up for Tech Support at some company to joining a discussion list/forum.</p>
<p>While some browsers offer an auto fill option natively or through plug-ins, I still cannot believe that no site (at least one I have found) has yet to allow an import of the users personal hCard.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18296</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing i&#039;m waiting for is for site based messaging to go away.  There isn&#039;t much stupider (IMO) than getting an email notification that you got a message on some website.  There are plenty of reason to implement messaging within a site, but none of them have the best interests of the users in mind (again IMO).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing i&#8217;m waiting for is for site based messaging to go away.  There isn&#8217;t much stupider (IMO) than getting an email notification that you got a message on some website.  There are plenty of reason to implement messaging within a site, but none of them have the best interests of the users in mind (again IMO).</p>
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		<title>By: André</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18110</link>
		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Justin on this one. Lack of portability is not the main reason why I only chose one network (XING) -- in my case, it&#039;s convenience. Doing this came with a price: I don&#039;t have any contacts from the US on my list because the service started here in Germany.

It&#039;s the never-ending story of something done right too many times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Justin on this one. Lack of portability is not the main reason why I only chose one network (XING) &#8212; in my case, it&#8217;s convenience. Doing this came with a price: I don&#8217;t have any contacts from the US on my list because the service started here in Germany.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the never-ending story of something done right too many times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18100</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For security reasons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For security reasons?</p>
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		<title>By: John MacAdam</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18096</link>
		<dc:creator>John MacAdam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have thought of this feature before and would love to see it happen!  For now, at least the autofill feature of my Google Toolbar simplifies a lot of the process.  Too bad it can&#039;t remember all of my preferences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have thought of this feature before and would love to see it happen!  For now, at least the autofill feature of my Google Toolbar simplifies a lot of the process.  Too bad it can&#8217;t remember all of my preferences!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18089</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a second thought on the previous idea, the web services/java based thing could also develop an API for the developers of SN&#039;s so that they tie into it, and say I have an account based on the previous mentioned api, it could automatically build me in as a registered user of the new SN. 

So originally I sign up with flickr, I can use my movable account at myspace, or facebook, etc, but then someone builds a new SN that supports the API, I can go there and sign in like any other place. 1 user name, 1 password, hundreds of sites.

Looks like its time to start designing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a second thought on the previous idea, the web services/java based thing could also develop an API for the developers of SN&#8217;s so that they tie into it, and say I have an account based on the previous mentioned api, it could automatically build me in as a registered user of the new SN. </p>
<p>So originally I sign up with flickr, I can use my movable account at myspace, or facebook, etc, but then someone builds a new SN that supports the API, I can go there and sign in like any other place. 1 user name, 1 password, hundreds of sites.</p>
<p>Looks like its time to start designing.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18087</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is really needed is an API for the different networks to talk to each other. So I can message my friend on facebook from myspace. (You know, if I actually cared). I’d say the chance of something like that actually happening is pretty close to nil.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you are on to something there. A little Java and some Web Services could make it happen. The hard part would be getting Facebook, MySpace, etc on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is really needed is an API for the different networks to talk to each other. So I can message my friend on facebook from myspace. (You know, if I actually cared). I’d say the chance of something like that actually happening is pretty close to nil.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you are on to something there. A little Java and some Web Services could make it happen. The hard part would be getting Facebook, MySpace, etc on board.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18080</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was something I was thinking about for a while, because I&#039;ve found trouble with getting friends into new things beyond myspace (to things such as Facebook or even Pownce). I dreamed up a concept for a service managing all your connections from one central location, then automatically transferring them to where ever you need them, but the idea seemed so over my head that I haven&#039;t thought about it since.

I don&#039;t particularly like the idea of social networks anyway. Apart from dealing with managing a site, how is signing up for a profile at &quot;myfriendsbookr&quot; any better than my friends and I having sites/blogs and then talking across them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was something I was thinking about for a while, because I&#8217;ve found trouble with getting friends into new things beyond myspace (to things such as Facebook or even Pownce). I dreamed up a concept for a service managing all your connections from one central location, then automatically transferring them to where ever you need them, but the idea seemed so over my head that I haven&#8217;t thought about it since.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly like the idea of social networks anyway. Apart from dealing with managing a site, how is signing up for a profile at &#8220;myfriendsbookr&#8221; any better than my friends and I having sites/blogs and then talking across them?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul P</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18057</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said another way, perhaps the value isn’t in the connection itself, but in all the space surrounding the connection. The connection by itself is inert and dumb. What I want to do is exchange photos or find a job or meet up with friends at a bar. So the value might be in media or search or contextual information. 

Perhaps the mainstream SN companies are barking up the wrong tree altogether — I’m not frustrated by my ability to make connections, but instead by my ability to make &lt;em&gt;meaningful&lt;/em&gt; connections and &lt;em&gt;maintain&lt;em&gt; them over time. That’s the hard part (I can “connect” with a department store clerk but it’s fleeting and meaningless). 

Standardize the connection, open up to the full power of the network, and build value around the connections that exist.

(I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://projectpaul.org/archive/2005/06/18/open-is-the-only-way-to-do-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more on this topic&lt;/a&gt; a couple of years ago.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said another way, perhaps the value isn’t in the connection itself, but in all the space surrounding the connection. The connection by itself is inert and dumb. What I want to do is exchange photos or find a job or meet up with friends at a bar. So the value might be in media or search or contextual information. </p>
<p>Perhaps the mainstream SN companies are barking up the wrong tree altogether — I’m not frustrated by my ability to make connections, but instead by my ability to make <em>meaningful</em> connections and <em>maintain</em><em> them over time. That’s the hard part (I can “connect” with a department store clerk but it’s fleeting and meaningless). </p>
<p>Standardize the connection, open up to the full power of the network, and build value around the connections that exist.</p>
<p>(I wrote <a href="http://projectpaul.org/archive/2005/06/18/open-is-the-only-way-to-do-it/" rel="nofollow">more on this topic</a> a couple of years ago.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/08/01/social-network-portability/#comment-18055</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can think of a lot of other instances where  this &quot;portability&quot; concept could be applied ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of a lot of other instances where  this &#8220;portability&#8221; concept could be applied &#8230;</p>
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