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		<title>By: Should You Be Using HTML Email?</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-41909</link>
		<dc:creator>Should You Be Using HTML Email?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Zeldman offers a hideous example of a badly designed html email from Nokia. It probably looked fine in a different email [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: When HTML Email Goes Horribly Wrong &#124; Doodlehaüs</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-40924</link>
		<dc:creator>When HTML Email Goes Horribly Wrong &#124; Doodlehaüs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article, When is e-mail like a bad website?, deconstructs an HTML email sent from a major cell phone manufacturer, presumably with plenty of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Chestnut</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-16637</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The different email programs use their own proprietary ways of rendering HTML. Some of them add their own code to your code. When forwarded to another recipient using another email client, the HTML email gets all mucked up. I think if you &quot;indent&quot; quoted messages from forwarded emails, it exacerbates the problem.

Proprietary HTML email rendering engines aren&#039;t as common in webmail clients (duh, since they use the browser) but you&#039;ll always see this on desktop apps (Lotus, Eudora, Apple Mail, Outlook 2007, etc). 

It&#039;s not that those companies are evil, and *want* things rendered wrong. It&#039;s just because back when they first built their programs, that was all they could use---hacked together code for displaying &quot;Rich Text.&quot;

This is more an issue of old email applications than HTML email design. 

The way most email marketers/designers can try to deal with this is they include a separate (albeit rarely used) &quot;forward this to a friend&quot; link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The different email programs use their own proprietary ways of rendering HTML. Some of them add their own code to your code. When forwarded to another recipient using another email client, the HTML email gets all mucked up. I think if you &#8220;indent&#8221; quoted messages from forwarded emails, it exacerbates the problem.</p>
<p>Proprietary HTML email rendering engines aren&#8217;t as common in webmail clients (duh, since they use the browser) but you&#8217;ll always see this on desktop apps (Lotus, Eudora, Apple Mail, Outlook 2007, etc). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that those companies are evil, and *want* things rendered wrong. It&#8217;s just because back when they first built their programs, that was all they could use&#8212;hacked together code for displaying &#8220;Rich Text.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is more an issue of old email applications than HTML email design. </p>
<p>The way most email marketers/designers can try to deal with this is they include a separate (albeit rarely used) &#8220;forward this to a friend&#8221; link.</p>
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		<title>By: grinaldo</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-16493</link>
		<dc:creator>grinaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a little off topic, but when you say that the email won&#039;t fit into one screenshot, I guess you mean without a scroll, cause the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FastStone Capture for Windows&lt;/a&gt; will let you capture a scrolling window into one picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little off topic, but when you say that the email won&#8217;t fit into one screenshot, I guess you mean without a scroll, cause the <a href="http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm" rel="nofollow">FastStone Capture for Windows</a> will let you capture a scrolling window into one picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Ikeris Sp. z o.o.</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-16179</link>
		<dc:creator>Ikeris Sp. z o.o.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate obtrusive and ugly html e-mails, but in some cases they are friendly. Especially when they are designed well.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Warshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15977</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Warshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand, I see the point of those who hate receiving HTML e-mail: it&#039;s plain irritating to deal with rendering errors and extra weight if you don&#039;t want it.

From a marketing perspective, though, the HTML e-mail (when done well, if that&#039;s even possible) has the right idea: it brings the user closer to styled content without requiring any extra action by the user. 

After looking for a few months, I just landed my first job out of school (marketing webmaster, if you&#039;re curious). While the big three career sites (Hot Jobs, Monster, and Career Builder) were ultimately frustrating, one of the best features shared by all three was a periodic HTML e-mail with job recommendations. A plain-text e-mail would have made the content less readable. A plain-text e-mail with a link to a site that actually had what I wanted would have been irritating.

That&#039;s just talking about information that I was incredibly devoted to obtaining. What if we&#039;re dealing with marketing campaigns (let&#039;s say the type that users willingly participate in by allowing their information to be distributed)? There are lots of users who will not bother with following a link to the content. There are users who will not take the plain-text e-mail as seriously because it looks like any old plain-text e-mail. 

So I understand the desire to keep e-mail lean. I certainly don&#039;t like getting unsolicited e-leviathans in my inbox. But I also don&#039;t see any chance of HTML e-mail campaigns dying any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, I see the point of those who hate receiving HTML e-mail: it&#8217;s plain irritating to deal with rendering errors and extra weight if you don&#8217;t want it.</p>
<p>From a marketing perspective, though, the HTML e-mail (when done well, if that&#8217;s even possible) has the right idea: it brings the user closer to styled content without requiring any extra action by the user. </p>
<p>After looking for a few months, I just landed my first job out of school (marketing webmaster, if you&#8217;re curious). While the big three career sites (Hot Jobs, Monster, and Career Builder) were ultimately frustrating, one of the best features shared by all three was a periodic HTML e-mail with job recommendations. A plain-text e-mail would have made the content less readable. A plain-text e-mail with a link to a site that actually had what I wanted would have been irritating.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just talking about information that I was incredibly devoted to obtaining. What if we&#8217;re dealing with marketing campaigns (let&#8217;s say the type that users willingly participate in by allowing their information to be distributed)? There are lots of users who will not bother with following a link to the content. There are users who will not take the plain-text e-mail as seriously because it looks like any old plain-text e-mail. </p>
<p>So I understand the desire to keep e-mail lean. I certainly don&#8217;t like getting unsolicited e-leviathans in my inbox. But I also don&#8217;t see any chance of HTML e-mail campaigns dying any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Would Mr. Zelman write an entry on “nice” HTML emails he might receive?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably not, since Mr. Zel&lt;b&gt;d&lt;/b&gt;man opts to receive plain text mail and knowingly uses a mail client whose HTML mail capabilities are contemptible.</description>
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Would Mr. Zelman write an entry on “nice” HTML emails he might receive?
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<p>Probably not, since Mr. Zel<strong>d</strong>man opts to receive plain text mail and knowingly uses a mail client whose HTML mail capabilities are contemptible.</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15557</link>
		<dc:creator>troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This only proves that, HTML emails, like web sites, can be created with different degrees of skill or effectiveness.

I fail to see Mr. Zeldman&#039;s point (other than trying to - indirectly- vilify HTML email). Would Mr. Zelman write an entry on &quot;nice&quot; HTML emails he might receive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This only proves that, HTML emails, like web sites, can be created with different degrees of skill or effectiveness.</p>
<p>I fail to see Mr. Zeldman&#8217;s point (other than trying to &#8211; indirectly- vilify HTML email). Would Mr. Zelman write an entry on &#8220;nice&#8221; HTML emails he might receive?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cannon</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15363</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  vote we, as a profession, eschew HTML e-mail in favor of attaching a single PDF or Word document. Or perhaps one giant 64-color GIF. &lt;em&gt;That&lt;/em&gt; will show &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  vote we, as a profession, eschew HTML e-mail in favor of attaching a single PDF or Word document. Or perhaps one giant 64-color GIF. <em>That</em> will show &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15356</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s acknowledge that there are basically two discrete user-oriented issues here:

a) Old-skool techies who hate HTML mail for (valid) technical reasons
b) Regular folk who receive broken emails and don&#039;t know why

The (a) users should be a non-issue, as far as their personal experience is concerned.  MIME standards have been around for a long time (RFC1341 appeared in 1992, in fact).  They&#039;ve obviously developed since, but the basic implementation still works - you put all the different formats in one message and let the client/agent decide.  Any user in segment (a) should be able to figure out how to make their email client display the text part of a MIME message only.  Anything else - discard it.

Any decent email campaign should include a well-written, concise plain text version.  It&#039;s the closest thing we have to &#039;degrading gracefully&#039;.  And frankly it&#039;s actually pretty graceful.

As for the (b) users, well they don&#039;t care or know if an email is HTML or rich text or plain text, any more than they know whether a website is standards-compliant or not.  All they know is that on their screen, the email looks broken.  In all likelihood, they delete it, and in all likelihood, whoever commissioned the broken email doesn&#039;t know and/or doesn&#039;t care.  Because those users are perceived to represent a tiny, dare I say it, disposable fraction of the audience.  It&#039;s simple ROI - if the amount it costs to get that design working &quot;for everyone&quot; doesn&#039;t outweigh the amount they&#039;ll gain from the increased exposure, then there&#039;s no point in doing it.

For a second, put yourselves into the heads of the marketers and understand something about email marketing - permissible, I mean: it&#039;s a numbers game.  If you have the subscriptions, it costs very little to send out 500,000 messages.  You can&#039;t think in terms of the ridiculously low response or conversion rates, think in terms of cost-per-lead (or cost per desired response).  To the business person, it makes no more sense to spend the time to make an email message universally compatible than it does to include a braille version of a direct marketing mail piece.

Of course, none of that makes it &quot;right&quot; and it doesn&#039;t mean that as designers/developers, we can&#039;t sit down and (try to) educate the business people, or quietly make the email as compatible as possible, or indeed follow the previously-posted guidelines.  Good luck doing that if you are given that Nokia mockup to code though.

(By the way, the old chestnut of &#039;know your audience&#039; comes in here.  Most likely the Nokia recipient FOB/MF Doom fans are not using Lotus Notes; in the same vein, if your audience is hardcore techies then you&#039;d better send it in plain text (or as an RSS feed), as the comments here over the past few days prove.)

The wailing about bandwidth, I don&#039;t buy.  We&#039;re quite happy to waste acres of bandwidth on YouTube and iTunes, the impact of legitimately-sent HTML emails is negligible.  They don&#039;t include the images in the email, they&#039;re called up remotely.  Or - increasingly - they aren&#039;t called up at all.

Which brings me to the conclusion - HTML email in the form we know it is not going to be around much longer.  Images are blocked by default in all the big web-based mail clients as well as in the newer Outlooks and Outlook Expresses.  Alt attributes do show up; but in the MS products they are all prefaced with &quot;Right-click here to download pictures.  To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download of this picture from the internet&quot;, effectively making them disappear.  These are the default settings, and (say it with me!) most users do not change the default settings.  I know I don&#039;t; if the email makes no sense without images then I&#039;ll move on.  It&#039;s at this point that I fall into the (b) group, by the way.  When that group becomes significant enough to affect the bottom line, you&#039;ll slowly see the shift away from things like the Nokia email.

So images in HTML emails are going the way of the dinosaur, as they can no longer be relied upon to communicate the message (or indeed the other thing for which images have been (ab)used - tracking who opened them, when and how many times).

HTML emails won&#039;t be going away any time soon, if at all, but their form will change.  The successful ones will use the medium to its effective limits; that is to say, simple accessible layouts, obvious links, appropriate text treatment, sensible use of colour and - last but not least - compelling copy.  I&#039;m not sure, but I think that&#039;s progress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s acknowledge that there are basically two discrete user-oriented issues here:</p>
<p>a) Old-skool techies who hate HTML mail for (valid) technical reasons<br />
b) Regular folk who receive broken emails and don&#8217;t know why</p>
<p>The (a) users should be a non-issue, as far as their personal experience is concerned.  MIME standards have been around for a long time (RFC1341 appeared in 1992, in fact).  They&#8217;ve obviously developed since, but the basic implementation still works &#8211; you put all the different formats in one message and let the client/agent decide.  Any user in segment (a) should be able to figure out how to make their email client display the text part of a MIME message only.  Anything else &#8211; discard it.</p>
<p>Any decent email campaign should include a well-written, concise plain text version.  It&#8217;s the closest thing we have to &#8216;degrading gracefully&#8217;.  And frankly it&#8217;s actually pretty graceful.</p>
<p>As for the (b) users, well they don&#8217;t care or know if an email is HTML or rich text or plain text, any more than they know whether a website is standards-compliant or not.  All they know is that on their screen, the email looks broken.  In all likelihood, they delete it, and in all likelihood, whoever commissioned the broken email doesn&#8217;t know and/or doesn&#8217;t care.  Because those users are perceived to represent a tiny, dare I say it, disposable fraction of the audience.  It&#8217;s simple ROI &#8211; if the amount it costs to get that design working &#8220;for everyone&#8221; doesn&#8217;t outweigh the amount they&#8217;ll gain from the increased exposure, then there&#8217;s no point in doing it.</p>
<p>For a second, put yourselves into the heads of the marketers and understand something about email marketing &#8211; permissible, I mean: it&#8217;s a numbers game.  If you have the subscriptions, it costs very little to send out 500,000 messages.  You can&#8217;t think in terms of the ridiculously low response or conversion rates, think in terms of cost-per-lead (or cost per desired response).  To the business person, it makes no more sense to spend the time to make an email message universally compatible than it does to include a braille version of a direct marketing mail piece.</p>
<p>Of course, none of that makes it &#8220;right&#8221; and it doesn&#8217;t mean that as designers/developers, we can&#8217;t sit down and (try to) educate the business people, or quietly make the email as compatible as possible, or indeed follow the previously-posted guidelines.  Good luck doing that if you are given that Nokia mockup to code though.</p>
<p>(By the way, the old chestnut of &#8216;know your audience&#8217; comes in here.  Most likely the Nokia recipient FOB/MF Doom fans are not using Lotus Notes; in the same vein, if your audience is hardcore techies then you&#8217;d better send it in plain text (or as an RSS feed), as the comments here over the past few days prove.)</p>
<p>The wailing about bandwidth, I don&#8217;t buy.  We&#8217;re quite happy to waste acres of bandwidth on YouTube and iTunes, the impact of legitimately-sent HTML emails is negligible.  They don&#8217;t include the images in the email, they&#8217;re called up remotely.  Or &#8211; increasingly &#8211; they aren&#8217;t called up at all.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the conclusion &#8211; HTML email in the form we know it is not going to be around much longer.  Images are blocked by default in all the big web-based mail clients as well as in the newer Outlooks and Outlook Expresses.  Alt attributes do show up; but in the MS products they are all prefaced with &#8220;Right-click here to download pictures.  To help protect your privacy, Outlook prevented automatic download of this picture from the internet&#8221;, effectively making them disappear.  These are the default settings, and (say it with me!) most users do not change the default settings.  I know I don&#8217;t; if the email makes no sense without images then I&#8217;ll move on.  It&#8217;s at this point that I fall into the (b) group, by the way.  When that group becomes significant enough to affect the bottom line, you&#8217;ll slowly see the shift away from things like the Nokia email.</p>
<p>So images in HTML emails are going the way of the dinosaur, as they can no longer be relied upon to communicate the message (or indeed the other thing for which images have been (ab)used &#8211; tracking who opened them, when and how many times).</p>
<p>HTML emails won&#8217;t be going away any time soon, if at all, but their form will change.  The successful ones will use the medium to its effective limits; that is to say, simple accessible layouts, obvious links, appropriate text treatment, sensible use of colour and &#8211; last but not least &#8211; compelling copy.  I&#8217;m not sure, but I think that&#8217;s progress?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15337</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the arguments on both sides are pretty valid.  I can&#039;t stand developing HTML emails for my company, especially because most of them are simply sliced jpegs.  Too many people are focused on &quot;branding&quot; and marketing, instead of quality content.

@Derek -- I think you&#039;re exactly right.  When the images ARE the content then they are paramount to design.  As long as the email has a method to give you the information in text-only if you so desire (text descriptions and links to external page).

I&#039;d like to see well-designed emails with minimal HTML usage.  Perhaps HTML could be used to show a company logo, and to make links clickable in HTML clients, but the content is king, as they say, and if an email (HTML or plaintext) fails to deliver the message then it serves no purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the arguments on both sides are pretty valid.  I can&#8217;t stand developing HTML emails for my company, especially because most of them are simply sliced jpegs.  Too many people are focused on &#8220;branding&#8221; and marketing, instead of quality content.</p>
<p>@Derek &#8212; I think you&#8217;re exactly right.  When the images ARE the content then they are paramount to design.  As long as the email has a method to give you the information in text-only if you so desire (text descriptions and links to external page).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see well-designed emails with minimal HTML usage.  Perhaps HTML could be used to show a company logo, and to make links clickable in HTML clients, but the content is king, as they say, and if an email (HTML or plaintext) fails to deliver the message then it serves no purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Scruggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Scruggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has ever had a Match.com account (where I met my wife -- yes it works for some people), will tell you there is huge value in receiving an HTML message &lt;em&gt;with pictures&lt;/em&gt; of the latest matches they&#039;ve found for you. There is utility in HTML email, but maybe not a lot of art. Likewise, there is utility in asphalt and not a lot of art. I agree that for personal email HTML is usually overkill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has ever had a Match.com account (where I met my wife &#8212; yes it works for some people), will tell you there is huge value in receiving an HTML message <em>with pictures</em> of the latest matches they&#8217;ve found for you. There is utility in HTML email, but maybe not a lot of art. Likewise, there is utility in asphalt and not a lot of art. I agree that for personal email HTML is usually overkill.</p>
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		<title>By: tayker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tayker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see a need for HTML in e-mail, just like I can see why some people want to listen to their music or surf the innertubes on a cell phone. Technology is going in so many directions that it&#039;s getting more difficult to set standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see a need for HTML in e-mail, just like I can see why some people want to listen to their music or surf the innertubes on a cell phone. Technology is going in so many directions that it&#8217;s getting more difficult to set standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15324</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Belden said: 
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Just hit “Delete” and move on. Way too much energy has been expended on this topic.
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Sorry, Dave. We didn&#039;t mean to disturb you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Belden said: </p>
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Just hit “Delete” and move on. Way too much energy has been expended on this topic.
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<p>Sorry, Dave. We didn&#8217;t mean to disturb you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogier</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/06/14/when-is-e-mail-like-a-bad-website/#comment-15322</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

The files for this Nokia newsletter weigh in at an astonishing 630 kb!

Just.... wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>The files for this Nokia newsletter weigh in at an astonishing 630 kb!</p>
<p>Just&#8230;. wow!</p>
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