Comments on: Women in web design: just the stats http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/ Web design news and insights since 1995 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:01:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Women in technology – Marci Ikeler http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-49802 Women in technology – Marci Ikeler Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:57:44 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-49802 [...] post over at zeldman.com regarding the underrepresentation of women in [...] [...] post over at zeldman.com regarding the underrepresentation of women in [...]

]]> By: mujer2.0, la mujer y las nuevas tecnologías, mujer y tics | El caparazon http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-48940 mujer2.0, la mujer y las nuevas tecnologías, mujer y tics | El caparazon Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:46:51 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-48940 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] la perla de este artículo es el estudio de Zelman, blog de referencia en EEUU sobre diseño web y nuevas tecnologías, En éste, la [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] la perla de este artículo es el estudio de Zelman, blog de referencia en EEUU sobre diseño web y nuevas tecnologías, En éste, la [...]

]]> By: 100 Awesome Webmaster Blogs by and for Women | WHDb http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-48159 100 Awesome Webmaster Blogs by and for Women | WHDb Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:10:09 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-48159 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] are the women in the Web? In April 2007, Jeffrey Zeldman bemoaned the lack of women in the IT force, the lack of women speakers at conferences (including his own An [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] are the women in the Web? In April 2007, Jeffrey Zeldman bemoaned the lack of women in the IT force, the lack of women speakers at conferences (including his own An [...]

]]> By: » Teach: Celestial Sky in Photoshop Kasey Coussens http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-47917 » Teach: Celestial Sky in Photoshop Kasey Coussens Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:21:33 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-47917 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] There is not a lot of information about gender and Photoshop.  The closest thing found was about web design and information technology (IT).  In these fields, there are more men and the number of women is decreasing.  In 1996, there was 41% of ITs being women and it has dropped by 18.5% since then (Zeldman). [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] There is not a lot of information about gender and Photoshop.  The closest thing found was about web design and information technology (IT).  In these fields, there are more men and the number of women is decreasing.  In 1996, there was 41% of ITs being women and it has dropped by 18.5% since then (Zeldman). [...]

]]> By: Anna http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-47538 Anna Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:28:31 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-47538 As to gaining confidence with technology, I agree with those of you who said the girls must have the opportunity for it, but so do the grown up women! I remember myself when I was 23 years old. I literally didn't know how to turn a PC on. I got fed up with this state of things and just applied for a two-years long technical course, well knowing only boys applied with me and sure they knew much more then me. They did, but only at the beginning. After a while it was clear to me, the male "technical superiority" is all about talking and boasting. And yes, they were all not shaved and looked like didn't like water much. My male colleagues now at my workplace sometimes behave the same, but they know they have to step down, and I'm not the only women there anymore :) (work in tech support). 2005 at the European Social Forum I participated in a great workshop of a feminist group Genderchangers (have a look at http://www.genderchangers.org). They do teach women how to take a PC apart, they do allow you to mess up with the components and to get your hands dirty, which is the way to go. Gaining confidence, even if you are a grown up women, if your parents didn't allow you to when you were small, like they did allow your brothers. Thanks for this great text, Anna As to gaining confidence with technology, I agree with those of you who said the girls must have the opportunity for it, but so do the grown up women!

I remember myself when I was 23 years old. I literally didn’t know how to turn a PC on. I got fed up with this state of things and just applied for a two-years long technical course, well knowing only boys applied with me and sure they knew much more then me. They did, but only at the beginning. After a while it was clear to me, the male “technical superiority” is all about talking and boasting. And yes, they were all not shaved and looked like didn’t like water much.

My male colleagues now at my workplace sometimes behave the same, but they know they have to step down, and I’m not the only women there anymore :) (work in tech support).

2005 at the European Social Forum I participated in a great workshop of a feminist group Genderchangers (have a look at http://www.genderchangers.org). They do teach women how to take a PC apart, they do allow you to mess up with the components and to get your hands dirty, which is the way to go. Gaining confidence, even if you are a grown up women, if your parents didn’t allow you to when you were small, like they did allow your brothers.

Thanks for this great text,

Anna

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]]> By: Women in technology | Marci Ikeler http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-41056 Women in technology | Marci Ikeler Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:16:37 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-41056 [...] post over at zeldman.com regarding the underrepresentation of women in [...] [...] post over at zeldman.com regarding the underrepresentation of women in [...]

]]> By: Helen http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-39360 Helen Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:38 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-39360 Thanks you, Jeffrey! Thanks you, Jeffrey!

]]> By: Tim Scheer http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-37908 Tim Scheer Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:25:58 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-37908 It's great to see you giving this subject attention! This is a great article that features successful brick and mortar woman business owners and their story. All women in business should be featured more often in todays media and news! http://www.americasbestcompanies.com/magazine/articles/women-in-small-business.aspx It’s great to see you giving this subject attention! This is a great article that features successful brick and mortar woman business owners and their story. All women in business should be featured more often in todays media and news!

http://www.americasbestcompanies.com/magazine/articles/women-in-small-business.aspx

]]> By: Web et diversité | Travailleurs Du Web http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-37182 Web et diversité | Travailleurs Du Web Sat, 17 May 2008 13:21:49 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-37182 [...] un article très intéressant du (aussi très intéressant) Jeffrey Zeldman (le pape des standard du web pour ceux qui ne le [...] [...] un article très intéressant du (aussi très intéressant) Jeffrey Zeldman (le pape des standard du web pour ceux qui ne le [...]

]]> By: Mujer y nuevas tecnologías, brecha digital de género | soitu.es http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36963 Mujer y nuevas tecnologías, brecha digital de género | soitu.es Fri, 09 May 2008 14:12:54 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36963 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] la perla de este artículo es el estudio de Zelman, blog de referencia en EEUU sobre diseño web y nuevas tecnologías, En éste, la [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] la perla de este artículo es el estudio de Zelman, blog de referencia en EEUU sobre diseño web y nuevas tecnologías, En éste, la [...]

]]> By: Andrea Hill http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36599 Andrea Hill Thu, 01 May 2008 22:08:36 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36599 I've noticed that the accessibility field has quite a few female players (check the presenter list for Access U: http://www.knowbility.org/conference/?content=instructors). I don't know if that is related moreso to the more "human-centred" aspect of the field? I work at an independent interactive women-run agency. Our CEO, CXO and COO are all women. Almost all our Information Architects are female, all the Business Analysts are female. All the Application Architects are male. The Senior Developers and the Associate Directors are almost all male (I am one of two senior developers, and I'm transitioning to a BA role). We are definitely a female-centric company (we've even published white papers on the <a href="http://resource.com/thoughtleadership/gender_agenda.aspx" rel="nofollow">Gender Agenda</a> and <a href="http://resource.com/thoughtleadership/www.aspx" rel="nofollow">What Women Want</a>. However, we just don't have the women working as developers within the technology field. They tend to take on more of a planning/strategic role. I don't know if the changes in the Web will make a difference. As it becomes more social and interactive (often considered motivations that are more important to women), there may be a turn to women getting more involved. Not from a programming standpoint outright, but perhaps envisioning new services or offerings. However, APIs make things easier, and by lowering the bar of entry we may have more "dabblers" in technology than dedicated programmers. I’ve noticed that the accessibility field has quite a few female players (check the presenter list for Access U: http://www.knowbility.org/conference/?content=instructors). I don’t know if that is related moreso to the more “human-centred” aspect of the field?

I work at an independent interactive women-run agency. Our CEO, CXO and COO are all women. Almost all our Information Architects are female, all the Business Analysts are female. All the Application Architects are male. The Senior Developers and the Associate Directors are almost all male (I am one of two senior developers, and I’m transitioning to a BA role).

We are definitely a female-centric company (we’ve even published white papers on the Gender Agenda and What Women Want. However, we just don’t have the women working as developers within the technology field. They tend to take on more of a planning/strategic role.

I don’t know if the changes in the Web will make a difference. As it becomes more social and interactive (often considered motivations that are more important to women), there may be a turn to women getting more involved. Not from a programming standpoint outright, but perhaps envisioning new services or offerings. However, APIs make things easier, and by lowering the bar of entry we may have more “dabblers” in technology than dedicated programmers.

]]> By: Changing Girls Attitudes Towards Computers in the Classroom: Educational CyberPlayGround http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36593 Changing Girls Attitudes Towards Computers in the Classroom: Educational CyberPlayGround Thu, 01 May 2008 19:21:55 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-36593 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] U.S. gender pay gap emerges early, study finds 2007 A dramatic pay gap emerges between women and men in America the year after they graduate from college and widens over the ensuing decade, according to research released on Monday. One year out of college, women working full time earn 80 percent of what men earn, according to the study by the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation, based in Washington D.C. Ten years later, women earn 69 percent as much as men earn, it said. What we do know is not good. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] U.S. gender pay gap emerges early, study finds 2007 A dramatic pay gap emerges between women and men in America the year after they graduate from college and widens over the ensuing decade, according to research released on Monday. One year out of college, women working full time earn 80 percent of what men earn, according to the study by the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation, based in Washington D.C. Ten years later, women earn 69 percent as much as men earn, it said. What we do know is not good. [...]

]]> By: VooVie http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-35326 VooVie Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:13:15 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-35326 Exactly,, no matter there is men or women if they have a good qualification.they will become a good web designer. Exactly,, no matter there is men or women if they have a good qualification.they will become a good web designer.

]]> By: czesci do drukarek http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-35077 czesci do drukarek Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:15:29 +0000 http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/19/women-in-web-design/#comment-35077 my girlfrend is good in web design ;) in answer on the topic - there is no difference for me, men or women can do it good if have qualifications. my girlfrend is good in web design ;)
in answer on the topic – there is no difference for me, men or women can do it good if have qualifications.

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