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	<title>Comments on: ALA 230: Make the logo smaller</title>
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		<title>By: flash designer</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/01/09/ala-230/#comment-7056</link>
		<dc:creator>flash designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I agree its hard to get graphic design tips except for a few sites like Before And After. There are books on it but not a whole lot of really good ones, best thing is to take a course on it and search out the few that colleges use and ones trusted designers refer to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I agree its hard to get graphic design tips except for a few sites like Before And After. There are books on it but not a whole lot of really good ones, best thing is to take a course on it and search out the few that colleges use and ones trusted designers refer to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/01/09/ala-230/#comment-6980</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Zeldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
how about some more articles that educate technical people about graphic design issues? As a tech person, I would love to learn more about making attractive designs.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We hear you! In the current issue, you&#039;ll find a dandy article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whitespace&lt;/a&gt;. It covers an aspect of design that non-designers don&#039;t know much about -- and even designers can stand to learn more about. I know I found the article illuminating.</description>
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how about some more articles that educate technical people about graphic design issues? As a tech person, I would love to learn more about making attractive designs.
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<p>We hear you! In the current issue, you&#8217;ll find a dandy article on <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace" rel="nofollow">whitespace</a>. It covers an aspect of design that non-designers don&#8217;t know much about &#8212; and even designers can stand to learn more about. I know I found the article illuminating.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/01/09/ala-230/#comment-6978</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of &quot;A List Apart&quot; articles are aimed at educating graphic designers about technology issues (such as &quot;web standards&quot;).  This is fine.  But how about some more articles that educate technical people about graphic design issues?  As a tech person, I would love to learn more about making attractive designs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of &#8220;A List Apart&#8221; articles are aimed at educating graphic designers about technology issues (such as &#8220;web standards&#8221;).  This is fine.  But how about some more articles that educate technical people about graphic design issues?  As a tech person, I would love to learn more about making attractive designs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mau</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2007/01/09/ala-230/#comment-6977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the &#039;Web Standards&#039; article:  It takes quite a while (and a lot of work) to start building and designing web pages around standards... But it pays to do so.

Recently on a class I took, they asked us what we thought about e-commerce websites and one of the things that I mentioned was that they should get closer and closer to web standards, a typical reaction I got from my peers was that &quot;web standards are a pain, and that they are not always the way to go&quot;.

Sadly that&#039;s how many many organizations think, and while the push for standards is more and more common within the web design community, we still have to convince  &#039;the man&#039; who normally is focused on short term do-it-with-tables-because-its-quicker mentality.

Great articles, as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8216;Web Standards&#8217; article:  It takes quite a while (and a lot of work) to start building and designing web pages around standards&#8230; But it pays to do so.</p>
<p>Recently on a class I took, they asked us what we thought about e-commerce websites and one of the things that I mentioned was that they should get closer and closer to web standards, a typical reaction I got from my peers was that &#8220;web standards are a pain, and that they are not always the way to go&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sadly that&#8217;s how many many organizations think, and while the push for standards is more and more common within the web design community, we still have to convince  &#8216;the man&#8217; who normally is focused on short term do-it-with-tables-because-its-quicker mentality.</p>
<p>Great articles, as usual.</p>
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