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		<title>By: Eric's Archived Thoughts: Forgetful Flickr</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-37686</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric's Archived Thoughts: Forgetful Flickr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] wrote yesterday about some Flickr problems he&#8217;s having, and while he&#8217;s found resolution, his post [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Davidson - On Joining The Male Butt-Crack Flickr Group</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-37542</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Davidson - On Joining The Male Butt-Crack Flickr Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] is clearly another situation that Flickr is ill-equipped to handle. I would like to add my photo but am unwilling to [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Linkage ~ Cameron Moll</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-7296</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkage ~ Cameron Moll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Flick&#8217;d away. Zeldman&#8217;s Pro account expires without notice, and 200+ photos immediately disappear. Good to know &#8212; mine expires next week. I&#8217;m off to renew immediately&#8230; [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: juque § weblog: Flickr me está cobrando</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-3255</link>
		<dc:creator>juque § weblog: Flickr me está cobrando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Zeldman se quejó tiempo atrás de que Flickr no le había avisado que su cuenta Pro había expirado, si no que más bien se dio cuenta de que ya no tenía todas sus fotos el mismo y entró en pánico. Yo soy un poco bastante adicto al Flickr y lo tengo en mi carpeta &quot;Día a Día&quot; de mi marcador Firefox. Recién acabo de entrar y me topo con esto: [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Zeldman se quejó tiempo atrás de que Flickr no le había avisado que su cuenta Pro había expirado, si no que más bien se dio cuenta de que ya no tenía todas sus fotos el mismo y entró en pánico. Yo soy un poco bastante adicto al Flickr y lo tengo en mi carpeta &#8220;Día a Día&#8221; de mi marcador Firefox. Recién acabo de entrar y me topo con esto: [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: My data is mine - Tweak - by Rijk</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-3227</link>
		<dc:creator>My data is mine - Tweak - by Rijk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] My data is mine - Tweak - by RijkOPERA COMMUNITY   Log in  &#124; Sign upSkip navigation.Tweak Blog ArchivePhotosLinksFriendsAbout[Sign up][Lost password?]User name:Password:remember meMy data is mineMonday, 19. June 2006, 10:05:34data longevity, open Interesting subjects in the blogoshere: data longevity. I agree with most of what Tantek says, and I&#039;ve also read about Mark Pilgrim&#039;s latest writings. Most of what I do is also done in plain text and HTML. My bookmarks are more or less readable in ADR and easily exportable to HTML. I&#039;m somewhat less interested in open hardware and open software, as long as the closed software produces open data, or is made to handle open data, I don&#039;t see a big problem.There are some unresolved issues, like using online services that don&#039;t always allow export in a usable long-term format. Will my photo albums on my.opera.com still work in 5 years? 15 years? Yes, I&#039;ve got lots of JPGs on my hard disk, what I really want to save is metadata about the selection I uploaded to share with others (which pics, comments, tagging).Update: here&#039;s an example of the kind of problems online services can cause.New pictures of JenseWeek gives Opera 9 &#039;analyst&#039;s choice award&#039; CommentsWell, Google&#039;s WebPicasa and Yahoo! Flickr should ne interopperable in near future. Other services will follow them. That&#039;s for photos (:About HTML - yep, every writting done by me is in HTML (: Well, I&#039;m not so worried about exporting data from Word&#039;s DOC or whatever, but it is much simplier for me to write HTML for tables and formatted text then using Word or another WYSIWYG. I&#039;m not worried about exporting because I don&#039;t like having a lot of stuff. So I don&#039;t like a lot of docs. Everything I think may be deleted is deleted immediatelly (: Also I don&#039;t like many opened windows and tabs. If there are more then 15-20 tabs in Opera (very rare!) I simply close Opera and start from scratch (: And I don&#039;t have bookmarks. The only thing I have in large amounts is music! Even our web-server in office is flooded with my mp3s (: But I&#039;m administrating it, so nobody knows (:P.S. How to turn off text dragging in address bar in Opera 9? Does anybody know? By Aux,  #  20. June 2006, 15:33:21 Showing comments 1 - 1. Write a commentYou must be logged in to write a comment. If you&#039;re not a registered member, please sign up. User name:Password: [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] My data is mine &#8211; Tweak &#8211; by RijkOPERA COMMUNITY   Log in  | Sign upSkip navigation.Tweak Blog ArchivePhotosLinksFriendsAbout[Sign up][Lost password?]User name:Password:remember meMy data is mineMonday, 19. June 2006, 10:05:34data longevity, open Interesting subjects in the blogoshere: data longevity. I agree with most of what Tantek says, and I&#8217;ve also read about Mark Pilgrim&#8217;s latest writings. Most of what I do is also done in plain text and HTML. My bookmarks are more or less readable in ADR and easily exportable to HTML. I&#8217;m somewhat less interested in open hardware and open software, as long as the closed software produces open data, or is made to handle open data, I don&#8217;t see a big problem.There are some unresolved issues, like using online services that don&#8217;t always allow export in a usable long-term format. Will my photo albums on my.opera.com still work in 5 years? 15 years? Yes, I&#8217;ve got lots of JPGs on my hard disk, what I really want to save is metadata about the selection I uploaded to share with others (which pics, comments, tagging).Update: here&#8217;s an example of the kind of problems online services can cause.New pictures of JenseWeek gives Opera 9 &#8216;analyst&#8217;s choice award&#8217; CommentsWell, Google&#8217;s WebPicasa and Yahoo! Flickr should ne interopperable in near future. Other services will follow them. That&#8217;s for photos (:About HTML &#8211; yep, every writting done by me is in HTML (: Well, I&#8217;m not so worried about exporting data from Word&#8217;s DOC or whatever, but it is much simplier for me to write HTML for tables and formatted text then using Word or another WYSIWYG. I&#8217;m not worried about exporting because I don&#8217;t like having a lot of stuff. So I don&#8217;t like a lot of docs. Everything I think may be deleted is deleted immediatelly (: Also I don&#8217;t like many opened windows and tabs. If there are more then 15-20 tabs in Opera (very rare!) I simply close Opera and start from scratch (: And I don&#8217;t have bookmarks. The only thing I have in large amounts is music! Even our web-server in office is flooded with my mp3s (: But I&#8217;m administrating it, so nobody knows (:P.S. How to turn off text dragging in address bar in Opera 9? Does anybody know? By Aux,  #  20. June 2006, 15:33:21 Showing comments 1 &#8211; 1. Write a commentYou must be logged in to write a comment. If you&#8217;re not a registered member, please sign up. User name:Password: [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Flickr: Forums: FlickrIdeas: Bomb PayPal!</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Flickr: Forums: FlickrIdeas: Bomb PayPal!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] i&#039;ve never had any problems with paypal, but zeldman apparently isn&#039;t happy with the delay that paypal has.   Posted 5 weeks ago. ( permalink ) [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: blulit &#124; Blog-O-Mau &#187; Annoyed with Yahoo!</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>blulit &#124; Blog-O-Mau &#187; Annoyed with Yahoo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Update: I guess Yahoo! Photos is not the only Yahoo! entity with certain issues.  Jeff Zeldman had some trouble with Flickr, but maybe bad publicity made them respond quick&#8230;  I wasn&#8217;t as lucky.. and I still don&#8217;t have my photos. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Talk To Me, Flickr! - Patrick Haney, Not a Sausage</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Talk To Me, Flickr! - Patrick Haney, Not a Sausage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Well apparently I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;s run into trouble in this area, though Mr. Zeldman was quick to write about the experience, even before he discovered the hidden secret to flickr and expiring Pro account photos. To make things worse, he didn&#039;t even receive an email letting him know the account was expiring (though after this incident and the Event Apart debacle, maybe Jeffrey should be looking into better spam filtering). [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Well apparently I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;s run into trouble in this area, though Mr. Zeldman was quick to write about the experience, even before he discovered the hidden secret to flickr and expiring Pro account photos. To make things worse, he didn&#8217;t even receive an email letting him know the account was expiring (though after this incident and the Event Apart debacle, maybe Jeffrey should be looking into better spam filtering). [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: afrodesia mediaworks</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>afrodesia mediaworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 27 June 2006 9 pm eastern [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew and Brittany Odom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; flickr just won&#8217;t work</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew and Brittany Odom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; flickr just won&#8217;t work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] joe sent me this article to read. basically it is the sad story of jeffrey zeldman and his problem with his flickr account shutting down on him and causing him to go into a mild panic. i don&#8217;t want that. so, feel free to still view our flickr account. just know that our gallery is our home for images and with joe&#8217;s help&#8230;.it will return! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] joe sent me this article to read. basically it is the sad story of jeffrey zeldman and his problem with his flickr account shutting down on him and causing him to go into a mild panic. i don&#8217;t want that. so, feel free to still view our flickr account. just know that our gallery is our home for images and with joe&#8217;s help&#8230;.it will return! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: outbreak &#187; The little bumps of the first time user (written on July 3rd, 2006 by Marko Mrdjenovic)</title>
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		<dc:creator>outbreak &#187; The little bumps of the first time user (written on July 3rd, 2006 by Marko Mrdjenovic)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On a side note, there seems to be a lot going on about Flickr. I haven&#8217;t really used it ever, but I&#8217;m doing it while writing this - I&#8217;ve been trying to get around to posting my pics from @media for some time now. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On a side note, there seems to be a lot going on about Flickr. I haven&#8217;t really used it ever, but I&#8217;m doing it while writing this &#8211; I&#8217;ve been trying to get around to posting my pics from @media for some time now. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pig Work - Web Standards Compliant Web Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Whining, Trolling And Feedback</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Pig Work - Web Standards Compliant Web Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Whining, Trolling And Feedback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Back to what I wanted to point to here: for the last few days Jeffrey Zeldman has had an issue with his Flickr Pro account with a termination of his account at one stage and the loss of a number of images from the account. Initially he wrote Flick&#8217;d Away to point out his issue. Then he wrote My Friend Flickr as a follow up article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Back to what I wanted to point to here: for the last few days Jeffrey Zeldman has had an issue with his Flickr Pro account with a termination of his account at one stage and the loss of a number of images from the account. Initially he wrote Flick&#8217;d Away to point out his issue. Then he wrote My Friend Flickr as a follow up article. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Porch Time &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Zeldman Rant</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Porch Time &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Zeldman Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He then whined about it on his blog saying that they should email people and tell them repeatedly, etc etc.  Flickr does. He also flipped out about his photos being lost.  Everyone (over 100 according to his update) and their mothers know that Flickr doesn&#8217;t delete your photos.  That &#8220;obscure&#8221; help page is something you should read when you sign up for the account.  Perhaps it&#8217;s just me (and everybody fucking else that does this). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He then whined about it on his blog saying that they should email people and tell them repeatedly, etc etc.  Flickr does. He also flipped out about his photos being lost.  Everyone (over 100 according to his update) and their mothers know that Flickr doesn&#8217;t delete your photos.  That &#8220;obscure&#8221; help page is something you should read when you sign up for the account.  Perhaps it&#8217;s just me (and everybody fucking else that does this). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-06-29 (Leapfroglog)</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2006-06-29 (Leapfroglog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeffrey Zeldman Presents : Flick’d Away Zeldman has a nasty experience with Flickr. He seems to have missed the notifications Flickr sends out before your account expires, but I do agree that hiding all but the most recent 200 photos is a bit silly. It always annoyed me. (tags: Flickr usability) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeffrey Zeldman Presents : Flick’d Away Zeldman has a nasty experience with Flickr. He seems to have missed the notifications Flickr sends out before your account expires, but I do agree that hiding all but the most recent 200 photos is a bit silly. It always annoyed me. (tags: Flickr usability) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zeldman&#8217;s Flickring Brilliance at Ruminate</title>
		<link>http://www.zeldman.com/2006/06/27/flickd-away/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeldman&#8217;s Flickring Brilliance at Ruminate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How many things can Zeldman get wrong in a simple online transaction? Well, I paid for my flickr Pro extension with a credit card&#8211; as it very clearly states when you access the extension form &#8220;Visa/MC/AMEX/Discover OR PayPal&#8221;&#8211; guess that&#8217;s too abstruse for Zeldman. Strike One. Then he laments the &#8220;hidden&#8221; information about his inaccessible photos. Yeah, that information is hidden right in the FAQ with the amazingly cryptic title &#8220;What Happens to My Photos if My Pro Account Expires?&#8221; and about a dozen other places. Strike Two. I received multiple notices about my account nearing expiration, including a standing announcement at the top of my home page every time I logged in. Strike Three. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How many things can Zeldman get wrong in a simple online transaction? Well, I paid for my flickr Pro extension with a credit card&#8211; as it very clearly states when you access the extension form &#8220;Visa/MC/AMEX/Discover OR PayPal&#8221;&#8211; guess that&#8217;s too abstruse for Zeldman. Strike One. Then he laments the &#8220;hidden&#8221; information about his inaccessible photos. Yeah, that information is hidden right in the FAQ with the amazingly cryptic title &#8220;What Happens to My Photos if My Pro Account Expires?&#8221; and about a dozen other places. Strike Two. I received multiple notices about my account nearing expiration, including a standing announcement at the top of my home page every time I logged in. Strike Three. [...]</p>
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